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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    M109, actually. And yes, the big cruiser crowd often rely on the rear, due to the weight distribution of those things.

    Which exposes them to risk in an emergancy stop situation. If their habit is to only use the rear, the black mark leading to the point of impact will tell a story.
    On the Harleys I've had the rear brake was only ever used on (a) emergency stop or (b) on a long slowing downhill/slightly loose surface.

    Despite the 'Harley brakes are crap' crows I locked up the front on a dry sealed surface when trying to avoid a sheep that ran out on front of me unexpectedly - enough to have smoke coming off the front tyre according to those behind me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frogfeaturesFZR View Post
    And avoiding the skid demon
    And the festive dog...
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    On the Harleys I've had the rear brake was only ever used on (a) emergency stop or (b) on a long slowing downhill/slightly loose surface.

    Despite the 'Harley brakes are crap' crows I locked up the front on a dry sealed surface when trying to avoid a sheep that ran out on front of me unexpectedly - enough to have smoke coming off the front tyre according to those behind me.
    Was it a "Stoppie" .. ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Was it a "Stoppie" .. ??
    Nah, sustained loss of traction.....

    no grip on them there nylon tyres

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    M109, actually. And yes, the big cruiser crowd often rely on the rear, due to the weight distribution of those things.

    Which exposes them to risk in an emergancy stop situation. If their habit is to only use the rear, the black mark leading to the point of impact will tell a story.
    Often notice the cruiser bikes only have 1 brake disk on the front.
    sprot bikes 2.

    noticeable effect on cruisers using just rear brake.

    Seeing this thread, reminds me to do some more brake practise.
    stopping from speed should be practised as well as controlled steering during that time.
    just replaced both sets of brake pads front and rear, much better.

    more confident that I might be able to slow down whilst steering.
    practise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eldog View Post
    Often notice the cruiser bikes only have 1 brake disk on the front.
    sprot bikes 2.

    noticeable effect on cruisers using just rear brake.

    Seeing this thread, reminds me to do some more brake practise.
    stopping from speed should be practised as well as controlled steering during that time.
    just replaced both sets of brake pads front and rear, much better.

    more confident that I might be able to slow down whilst steering.
    practise.
    Single disc on front of a cruiser is fine, weight bias means rear brake does more work anyway.

    Hard reality is that unless someone has been trained how to brake properly, and practices regularly, then stopping distances grow quite a bit. So under pressure it's basically "oh-shit-kinda-braking" as opposed to a controlled stop

    If I can bring my hefty FJR to a halt from 100 in under 35 metres yet ol mate on his Farley takes twice as much distance...it is simply the operator skill/training/practice that makes the difference

    I'm not 100% sure if I'm qualified to comment though being an upholder of the standard and perhaps a tad too passionate about road safety on 2/4 and more wheels

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    Quote Originally Posted by eldog View Post
    Nah, sustained loss of traction.....

    no grip on them there nylon tyres
    Sustained loss of traction is a traffic offense.

    And "No Grip" in the tires ... probably isn't a valid legal excuse.



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    Quote Originally Posted by eldog View Post
    Nah, sustained loss of traction.....

    no grip on them there nylon tyres
    Go have a look at whats on the side wall of your motobicycle tires ffs. It wont be the word rubber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caspernz View Post
    If I can bring my hefty FJR to a halt from 100 in under 35 metres
    something for me to aim for

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonez View Post
    Go have a look at whats on the side wall of your motobicycle tires ffs. It wont be the word rubber.
    its been scRUBBERed off

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Sustained loss of traction is a traffic offense.

    And "No Grip" in the tires ... probably isn't a valid legal excuse.



    Just saying ...

    sliding on a diesel spill or a heap of loose gravel on an intersection results in a loss of traction
    no grip would be my reason then.

    who would be correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eldog View Post
    sliding on a diesel spill or a heap of loose gravel on an intersection results in a loss of traction
    no grip would be my reason then.

    who would be correct?
    You are obviously not aware of your conditions. Desol spills are relitively easy to spot because of all those pretty colors and from a ditance it is normally darker than the tarmac.. So is pee gravel if you have slowed down enough at an intersection. Of course there is always trhe posiblity of the vehicle ahead obscuring them but then you are following far too close.

    Just saying....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonez View Post
    Go have a look at whats on the side wall of your motobicycle tires ffs. It wont be the word rubber.
    It might not but that is what still makes up a large portion of every tyre, both synthetic and natural rubbers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonez View Post
    You are obviously not aware of your conditions. Desol spills are relitively easy to spot because of all those pretty colors and from a ditance it is normally darker than the tarmac.. So is pee gravel if you have slowed down enough at an intersection. Of course there is always trhe posiblity of the vehicle ahead obscuring them but then you are following far too close.

    Just saying....
    Pretty colours and gravel this is usually in small patches on T intersections
    Hard to see at night

    Past your bedtime?
    just saying

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