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    Honda CN250/Spacy/Helix/Elite

    Anyone know of any of these floating around? I just found one for myself to delve further in to my automotive masochism. It's ridiculous and supremely ugly. Bit would be even more offensive if I could find the missing plastics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Ha...Thats true but life is full horrible choices sometimes Merv. Then sometimes just plain stuff happens... and then some more stuff happens.....




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    A guy i worked with in the mid 90's had one of those, he also had a bad perm and no girlfriend I sincerly believe the three issues were not completely unrelated.
    i think i have a road test on one somewhere in a oddball us mag sport rider or something (spoiler alert the road surface was not tested buy the shear grunt on the thing)
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    Some sort of Judge Dread bike makeover?
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    A guy i worked with in the mid 90's had one of those, he also had a bad perm and no girlfriend I sincerly believe the three issues were not completely unrelated.
    i think i have a road test on one somewhere in a oddball us mag sport rider or something (spoiler alert the road surface was not tested buy the shear grunt on the thing)
    I imagine the missus will be packing up and taking the kid, dog and cat with her 🤣

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    Some sort of Judge Dread bike makeover?
    I have no idea what I'm doing anymore
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Ha...Thats true but life is full horrible choices sometimes Merv. Then sometimes just plain stuff happens... and then some more stuff happens.....




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    Quote Originally Posted by ducatilover View Post
    I imagine the missus will be packing up and taking the kid, dog and cat with her ��
    I would say keep the cat scooter riders would tend to have a heap of cats....
    TBH i have a similar vintage Lead 125ss nearly as ugly but at least its a Reed valve 2t.

    there was an even super uglier Darth Vadar styled 50 or 80 as well.
    I can't recall what it was called but it had an Atac pedal.
    a quick google it was the Honda Beat


    Honda V-TACS
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    The "V-TACS" - Variable Torque Amplification Chamber System - works differently from the "ATAC system" and it will only work when it is used in conjunction with a tuned muffler. Tuned mufflers/expansion chambers increase power but only at the RPM they are designed for and can actually cause a power loss outside their tuned RPM. "V-TACS system" takes advantage of using an expansion chamber without losing power outside the expansion chamber's tuned RPM. Within the head and cylinder of the engine, there is a chamber that is sealed by a valve. This sealed chamber is vented onto the exhaust port when the valve is open. At low RPM this valve is open, this has the effect of increasing the exhaust manifold volume and negating the power loss that would normally be apparent at low RPM with an expansion chamber. At mid RPM the valve is closed, this enables the expansion chamber to work. It is identified by the head and cylinder, being much larger than normal for its displacement, the cylinder wall is also cast with the wording VTACS on it.

    V-TACS was a foot-operated power valve system made by Honda on some of its small two-stroke bikes and scooters, like the Honda FC50
    plus this one i have never seen before but they had a pop up head light and testrarossa louvers.....

    I don't ever recall seeing a pop up one?

    wrap-around tail lights like a Goldwing. or a touring hardly
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducatilover View Post
    Anyone know of any of these floating around? I just found one for myself to delve further in to my automotive masochism. It's ridiculous and supremely ugly. Bit would be even more offensive if I could find the missing plastics
    Motorcyclists aspire to be offensive. For some it's a life intention.

    If it works (and it's legal) ... and does the job you want it to ... whats the issue .. ??
    When life throws you a curve ... Lean into it ...

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    Yes, the Lead. It could be pronounced two ways.

    But it's one endearing feature was it had a belt driven water pump that a mate ran on his GP100 off the flywheel.
    I've been told. Dreaming`s free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Motorcyclists aspire to be offensive. For some it's a life intention.

    If it works (and it's legal) ... and does the job you want it to ... whats the issue .. ??
    Not all motorcyclists

    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    I would say keep the cat scooter riders would tend to have a heap of cats....
    TBH i have a similar vintage Lead 125ss nearly as ugly but at least its a Reed valve 2t.

    there was an even super uglier Darth Vadar styled 50 or 80 as well.
    I can't recall what it was called but it had an Atac pedal.
    a quick google it was the Honda Beat




    plus this one i have never seen before but they had a pop up head light and testrarossa louvers.....

    I don't ever recall seeing a pop up one?

    wrap-around tail lights like a Goldwing. or a touring hardly
    There is, or was?, a pair of Honda Beats on trademe, I have been strangely tempted by them
    There's something awesome about the shockingly 80's Honda stuff.
    I have seen one with the pop up light, very jealous

    Having an ATAC pedal would basically complete my life

    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Yes, the Lead. It could be pronounced two ways.

    But it's one endearing feature was it had a belt driven water pump that a mate ran on his GP100 off the flywheel.
    Well, that's an interesting one. I'll have a little look at that
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducatilover View Post
    There is, or was?, a pair of Honda Beats on trademe, I have been strangely tempted by them
    There's something awesome about the shockingly 80's Honda stuff.
    I have seen one with the pop up light, very jealous

    Having an ATAC pedal would basically complete my life


    Well, that's an interesting one. I'll have a little look at that
    Its those darth vadar helmet good looks.


    it must be a nostalgia thing, I remember they were just as ugly back in the day as they are now.
    But ugly now is kind of cute in our homogenized every car or bike looks alike world.
    Maybe its like those wheel spats or Bathtubs and nacelles on the triumphs or quirky is cool like a 2cv or Bettle or morris minor

    The Vtac pedal was and had to be used all the time. if made it feel faster? not sure if it made a speed difference? but the engine note changed which was just as good as a 50HP shot of nitrous.

    Dave i think the water pump might have actually been from the Beat as that was water cooled i don't recall any the leads being WC (but maybe the Lead 80SS was, that had a disc as was much faster)

    Like all scooters of the era, all we used to do was decarb the exhaust and replace the tires and or plastics. Maybe an occasions carb and tank clean
    I never remember anyone even doing a rebore or a top end.

    The most capable bike was the 50CC DJ1 as that was a rocket ship for 50 and would wheelie under throttle if you timed it right and leaned back at the correct time but it had a tiny front wheel 8 inch i think so people were a little dubious of it. it was a shit load faster than a nifty, but like the nifty it has boring looks.
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    Actually I did double think that, probably the Beat then. Sinking like a lead balloon.
    I've been told. Dreaming`s free.
    Think I'll go, back to sleep.
    Everybody listen, voices in my head
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Actually I did double think that, probably the Beat then. Sinking like a lead balloon.
    I cant even see a parts fiche.
    Instant classic.
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    I need a Beat!!!!! You've sold me.
    A friend has an RG50 I've been trying to get off him for years, what a genius little machine that is.

    Sourcing anything other than the usual service items for the CN250 is proving nigh on impossible
    First and foremost I want a tail light unit because mine is smashed to bits. Then I can get a wof and ride around looking like a dick.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducatilover View Post
    I need a Beat!!!!! You've sold me.
    A friend has an RG50 I've been trying to get off him for years, what a genius little machine that is.

    Sourcing anything other than the usual service items for the CN250 is proving nigh on impossible
    First and foremost I want a tail light unit because mine is smashed to bits. Then I can get a wof and ride around looking like a dick.
    Have u tryed malcom kirby encho honda .
    I have a nss 250 forza .
    I had a lead 80 dad had ss version it had more torque.
    I used slid the front on that baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducatilover View Post
    I need a Beat!!!!! You've sold me.
    A friend has an RG50 I've been trying to get off him for years, what a genius little machine that is.

    Sourcing anything other than the usual service items for the CN250 is proving nigh on impossible
    First and foremost I want a tail light unit because mine is smashed to bits. Then I can get a wof and ride around looking like a dick.
    RG50 you say? I've done the odd km on one of those. Like Wellington to the cold kiwi ,six times, despite having 1100 tourers in the stable.

    Plus I might have done a few race laps on one as well for about 20 years.
    I've been told. Dreaming`s free.
    Think I'll go, back to sleep.
    Everybody listen, voices in my head
    Everybody listen, do yours say, what mine says?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
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