I tried, RC, I really did...

[rastuscat]

Asking for a friend

I'll be your friend. For beersies.

[FJRider]

I'll be your friend. For beersies.

I'll pass on your offer.

I know I won't ride forever ...

[Racing Dave]

About 10 years ago I rode my FJ1200 over to Akaroa on a Sunday. The usual "Weekend tourist" traffic both ways. The lowest gear (about 15/20 km/hr) I got to was 3rd on an uphill bit. I had no need to slip the clutch. I had more problem fighting the wind than traffic ...

Those 4-cylinder bikes are much smoother at the bottom end of the rev range than twins are, even allowing for BMW's heavy flywheel. When I bought my bike new in 2007, the special 'enduro' lower ratio fist gear wasn't an option.

[SaferRides]

The 40 kmh limit was decided on 15 years ago when the standard speed limit was 50.

Then we realised that it should be based on vulnerable road user survivability, and that 30 kmh made more sense.

The 40s will be phased down to 30.

I wouldn't want to hit by a car at 30, thank you very much.

Much better to make the pedestrian/ road interface safer.



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[rastuscat]

I wouldn't want to hit by a car at 30, thank you very much.

Much better to make the pedestrian/ road interface safer.



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The survivability at 30.kmh is around 90%. Which is better than the way lower figure at 50 kmh or even 40 kmh.

Yes, pedestrians need to be more careful. But people make mistakes. This includes drivers, riders, pedestrians et al.

[SaferRides]

The survivability at 30.kmh is around 90%. Which is better than the way lower figure at 50 kmh or even 40 kmh.

Yes, pedestrians need to be more careful. But people make mistakes. This includes drivers, riders, pedestrians et al.

Yes, but in this context, survivability probably means some degree of permanent disability. It might make the road toll figures look better but is still not a good outcome.

Improving occupational safety usually requires a combination of measures to reduce accidents and mitigate harm. All I'm seeing at the moment on road safety is reduced speed limits.

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[jim.cox]

Yes, but in this context, survivability probably means some degree of permanent disability. It might make the road toll figures look better but is still not a good outcome.

Improving occupational safety usually requires a combination of measures to reduce accidents and mitigate harm. All I'm seeing at the moment on road safety is reduced speed limits.

More pedestrian's than cyclists get hurt every year.

When are we going to make them wear helmets and hi-viz too?

[pete376403]

More pedestrian's than cyclists get hurt every year.

When are we going to make them wear helmets and hi-viz too?

How many of these pedestrians are bowled by cars driving on the footpath? Probably not a lot, so when are we going to enforce pedestrians staying off roads except at proper crossings?

[jim.cox]

How many of these pedestrians are bowled by cars driving on the footpath? Probably not a lot, so when are we going to enforce pedestrians staying off roads except at proper crossings?

Roads are for everyone, with a right to pass and re-pass at will.

It is pedestrians in the carriageway you're talking about.

That risk will reduce once they ban private vehicles.