Speed Camera Changes

**Moi** · 13th March 2025, 13:20

As long as the government/police/nzta pussyfoot round speed/seatbelt use/phone use/generally crap driving nothing will change.

Change the legislation and then enforce it - drivers know how to behave, if they don't they're thick, and if they get caught breaking the rules then too bad, tough love it's called. Someone used to mention the "three Es - engineering, education, enforcement".

If you want to ride/drive fast, go do it on a track. If you do it on a public road and get caught, too bad. You gambled and lost.

There used to be a sign on the road from Melbourne International airport as you crossed from Federal Territory to State of Victoria which said something like this: "Speed cameras operate in the State of Victoria". You had been told.

I wonder if the OP has recently had a speeding fine from a camera and is still feeling peeved about it...

**rastuscat** · 13th March 2025, 15:17

Originally Posted by riderboris

Hi Riderz,
After purchasing a radar detector recently, I did some research (some of the camera's dont get recognized), into why they weren't coming up.

It seems that a large number of the cameras are not even active, they are currently in the testing phase (and not live for tickets).
This is an issue because they cause the same response as all of the other cameras out there (cars dropping to half of the speed limit) through these zones.

The other thing that I found was that the NZ Police public listing of cameras is out of date.
https://www.police.govt.nz/sites/def...es-oct2024.pdf

this is probably in part due to the handover fro the police to NZTA (those money grubbing b'stards) of the cameras (see below).
https://www.nzta.govt.nz/safety/driv...era-locations/
and here:
https://www.nzta.govt.nz/safety/driv...-camera-sites/

if it was all about making the roads safer and having people slow down in black spots (some of us remember), then they would still give the GPS co-ordinates of these cameras.

To encourage the powers that be to be reasonable (open and honest) I urge everyone on this forum to send an OIA request to NZTA to the following e-mail address.
Government agencies are representative agencies and as such must have 100% transparancy.
(if they get enough requests they will publicize the locations as was done with the NZ Police).

Official.Correspondence@nzta.govt.nz
here is a draft for you:

To the OIA Team,
Under the Official Information Act, please provide the following information that is not included on the NZTA Website.

A comprehensive list of all 'safety Camera' Locations including the following for each:

Camera Location (street location
Camera GPS Co-ordinates
Camera Type (speed / red light)
Camera Function (spot speed/ average speed)
Status / go live date

In addition, lease also include New Sites that are currently being tested in this list, with expected 'go live' dates

That's the way, encourage people to waste the governments time on BS requests.

Don't exceed a speed limit. You won't have to worry about whether there are cameras there or not.

Simple ideas are always best.

**F5 Dave** · 13th March 2025, 17:07

Ahh ya great women's blouses!

Ride fast. Take risks.

**SaferRides** · 13th March 2025, 22:02

Originally Posted by rastuscat

In fact, it's not about cellphones. Cellphones are just one distraction amongst many.

Touch screens in cars are as bad, if not worse.

Worse in my opinion, especially in rental cars. And it's not just the touchscreens, it's some of the active safety tech. In the UK a year ago, I was intrigued to see how many drivers used their left indicators on the motorways. I soon found out why after picking up a Volvo rental...

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**release_the_bees** · 15th March 2025, 17:51

Originally Posted by nerrrd

I’m astonished daily at the numbers blatantly using their phones in Auckland traffic

One of the most ridiculous things I've seen, during a morning commute, was some bloke doing a video conference with a tablet somehow mounted to their steering wheel while driving in rush hour traffic.

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**R650R** · 15th March 2025, 19:16

Originally Posted by release_the_bees

One of the most ridiculous things I've seen, during a morning commute, was some bloke doing a video conference with a tablet somehow mounted to their steering wheel while driving in rush hour traffic.

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That will make for interesting injury of airbag goes off….

One thing I’ve noticed increasing while out on push bike for exercise or just walking to shop is number of youth texting while cycling often with no hands on the bars (which is fine if your looking where your going).
I wonder if it’s showing up in increased crashes on bicycles or not yet.

I wonder if anyone is ready for the new glasses coming out that will have wifi link to phone and data displayed on the screen. You’ll think someone’s seeing you looking towards you but they will be driving and watching Netflix or something.

**R650R** · 15th March 2025, 19:22

I say we make phones final part of driving test, hunger games style.

Set up a 500m stretch of tarmac with large staggered concrete blocks. The student must reach end of course in a set timeframe while typing an accurate sentence on txt message and take a video call where the must eye contact screen for minimum 5 seconds. Also seatbelts not allowed and insurance invalid during test.

To pass the test you simply refuse to do it. Those that think they know better won’t be able to resist and Darwin will take its course.

**rastuscat** · 17th March 2025, 14:21

Originally Posted by release_the_bees

One of the most ridiculous things I've seen, during a morning commute, was some bloke doing a video conference with a tablet somehow mounted to their steering wheel while driving in rush hour traffic.

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Followed a bloke a few years back on the Christchurch Northern Motorway. I was in the lane next to him.

He was watching Argentina V someone at the football world cup. Phone mounted on the dash. Handsfree.

Thing is, the rule (Land Transport Rule Vehicle Equipment 2004) only says you can't watch a TV when driving. It doesn't say anything about streaming.

Technology outpaces legislation, by many years.