NZTA speed cameras

[BMWST?]

I guess it'll cause them to focus a bit more on their speed for at least a while. Isn't that the point?

There are so many different speed sign posted now that often, I am not 100 percent sure what the speed limit is! Time was it was 50,80 or 100,vast majority 50 or 100. Now it can be 50,60,70 ,80 and 100 and a few 110s

[SaferRides]

There are so many different speed sign posted now that often, I am not 100 percent sure what the speed limit is! Time was it was 50,80 or 100,vast majority 50 or 100. Now it can be 50,60,70 ,80 and 100 and a few 110s

And the 90 limit at the start of SH2 south of Auckland...



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[nerrrd]

Signage in general is pretty sparse, if you miss the first one that's it, often you won't get another warning until it goes back up.

But I guess there's a cost factor involved there too.

[rastuscat]

There are so many different speed sign posted now that often, I am not 100 percent sure what the speed limit is! Time was it was 50,80 or 100,vast majority 50 or 100. Now it can be 50,60,70 ,80 and 100 and a few 110s

Back in the day there were 50 and 100, with the occasional variation. People complained that on many 50 roads it was too slow, and occasionally that 100 was too fast in the 100s.

So councils and NZTA introduced speed limit variations to better reflect actual roading environments. Often they didn't make sense, but there was a basis for each variation.

Now people complain about variation.

[SaferRides]

Back in the day there were 50 and 100, with the occasional variation. People complained that on many 50 roads it was too slow, and occasionally that 100 was too fast in the 100s..

And 70, which was what 40 mph became, for those of us old enough to remember.

Now we have everything from 30 to 110. In the North Waikato, I could probably plan a route that includes all 9 limits within a one hour ride.


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[F5 Dave]

Yeah I think the variation at least makes me believe that they've thought about it.
As my post above demonstrates, some people are never going to pay much attention and will drive "too slow" and "too fast" on the same stretch of road.

[pritch]

In Britain speed was rated the seventh highest cause of accidents. Seventh was considered artificially high because many accidents are attended by general duties cops who don't have specialist traffic training. Driving habits there are probably not dissimilar to here so we might wonder what could be done about the six causal factors higher up the list than speed. If the police even know what they are. They give the impression that they don't look much past speed and alcohol.

[rastuscat]

In Britain speed was rated the seventh highest cause of accidents. Seventh was considered artificially high because many accidents are attended by general duties cops who don't have specialist traffic training. Driving habits there are probably not dissimilar to here so we might wonder what could be done about the six causal factors higher up the list than speed. If the police even know what they are. They give the impression that they don't look much past speed and alcohol.

The hidden-in-plain-sight fact though is that regardless of the causative factor, the laws of physics dictate that more speed is worse than less speed in the event of a crash.

Sure, speed causes some crashes. But it is a major determinant factor in the outcome of every crash.

Says the guy with a 160hp bike.

[jellywrestler]

They give the impression that they don't look much past speed and alcohol.

they don't, simple fact is they don't want to issue tickets that can be challenged in court, as they don't like spending their time there when people defend them. A judge will believe a speed infringement because it's done with a machine and a sworn in police officer. I beleive we should have cameras in all cop cars and they can record people doing silly shit, then get back on the beat as the case has evidence and is no longer their problem and cover all untidy road behaviours and actually get shit driving sorted. Cell phone use is rife, how hard can that be to police, if i can see five people in one line of traffic on their phones why can't they? Put a small sign on a traffic light reminding people it's not legal when the car is running, their kids will see it and ask questions, ,that will have some impact etc etc.
When is the last time anybody in nz got a ticket for following too close? that's a huge factor in compounding crashes.

[R650R]

they don't, simple fact is they don't want to issue tickets that can be challenged in court, as they don't like spending their time there when people defend them. A judge will believe a speed infringement because it's done with a machine and a sworn in police officer. I beleive we should have cameras in all cop cars and they can record people doing silly shit, then get back on the beat as the case has evidence and is no longer their problem and cover all untidy road behaviours and actually get shit driving sorted. Cell phone use is rife, how hard can that be to police, if i can see five people in one line of traffic on their phones why can't they? Put a small sign on a traffic light reminding people it's not legal when the car is running, their kids will see it and ask questions, ,that will have some impact etc etc.
When is the last time anybody in nz got a ticket for following too close? that's a huge factor in compounding crashes.

Don’t worry the technocratic dictatorship is coming soon, that technology exists we just haven’t bought it yet. And things are progressing so fast we should enjoy our current freedoms. Soon via a combination of tax and insurance costs private vehicle ownership will be prohibitively expensive. You’ll take a bus or self driving uber of some kind.
As private vehicle ownership declines insurance revenues will decline rapidly, those who still have vehicles will sadly be picking up the tab.

Following distance is over-rated in that we get too upset about something outside our control.Ive been struck three times from behind, two were at safe distance but not paying any attention, the third was rushing to beat a orange to red light and didnt know how to behave around a turning heavy vehicle.So I’m always aware of what’s around me but I take a Zen like spirit to anyone too close and concentrate on what’s in front.
Good following distances are much safer but we shouldn’t let ourselves be distracted from what’s in front.

[R650R]

I rate fatigue as prob highest cause of crashes followed closely by poor decision making.

So whose up for documenting their work hours and rest time like truck drivers do and then having a mandatory 10hr time during each 24hrs where your not allowed to drive. And then just imagine come the weekend sorry wife and kids we can’t drive up to coromandel beach bach I’ve worked too many hours this week at work.
And then if you did have time for that journey how about being detained for 20mins for a random roadside WOF level mechanical check. How about some fines and demerit points either way that for failing to fill logbook in correctly.

I think you all would rather just take chances with speed ticket

[jellywrestler]

There are so many different speed sign posted now that often, I am not 100 percent sure what the speed limit is! Time was it was 50,80 or 100,vast majority 50 or 100. Now it can be 50,60,70 ,80 and 100 and a few 110s

you don't get out much, 40 and 30 are not uncommon now too

[jellywrestler]

Following distance is over-rated in that we get too upset about something outside our control.Ive been struck three times from behind, two were at safe distance but not paying any attention, the third was rushing to beat a orange to red light and didnt know how to behave around a turning heavy vehicle.So I’m always aware of what’s around me but I take a Zen like spirit to anyone too close and concentrate on what’s in front.
Good following distances are much safer but we shouldn’t let ourselves be distracted from what’s in front.

did a decnt chucnk of the south island last week lewis pass etc and three vehicles packed in tight was the biggest issue on several occasions to hinder passing, they just sat in a road train, either way that's just one thing they could actually police, get people actually aware of their own poor driving

[nerrrd]

you don't get out much, 40 and 30 are not uncommon now too

My usual morning run of speed limits in order in Auckland: 50, 60, 50, 30, 40, 30, 40, 80, 50, 40*, 50, 40*, 50, 40*, 50, 30. And that’s over a 20km distance.

* school zones.

[sugilite:Me]

When is the last time anybody in nz got a ticket for following too close? that's a huge factor in compounding crashes.

UK has tailgating detection in some of their "Ai" cameras. So they should not be too far away getting them here too.

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