RUC's for all road vehicles, this will be fun.

[rastuscat]

There seems to be a focus in that video on the fact that people with more fuel efficient cars will end up paying more, and that it's somehow unfair.

If you're driving your car on the road, it's causing some degree of degradation of that road regardless of how much fuel it's using to do that, so it doesn't seem unreasonable that the contribution to roading costs is based on how far you drive not how much fuel you use while doing so.

The argument that it reduces the incentive to drive more efficient cars doesn't really stack up, given that fuel levy (+GST) is around 1/3 of the cost of petrol, the other 2/3 of the cost is reason enough to drive something more efficient if you want to pay less to get from A to B.

There seem to be a lot of suggestions for other add-ons to RUC charging which has the potential to open a lot of doors for other charges and potential for spectacular cockups in the implementation, the current system seems to work pretty well for diesels and EVs, the simple answer would seem to be to just do that. If your RUCs aren't up to date you don't get a WOF, sure there will be some people who will try to fiddle the system or already don't care if their vehicle is legal, but the majority will just take the easiest route of paying what they're supposed to and the government will get the money they want.

The current system is subject to significant abuse. All sysyems are. Because of its current size, it's as much as the enforcement side can cope with.

If the curerent system went full gas, including all vehicles, the abuse would be beyond the coping ability of enforcement, without a ramping up of the enforcement system itself.

I know a lot of cops who won't write RUC tickets, as it's too close to being pure tax collection.

[jellywrestler]

I know a lot of cops who won't write RUC tickets, as it's too close to being pure tax collection.

don't they swear to uphold the law?
isn't it a cops job to write the tickets, and a judges to assess whether they are guilty, not the cops?

sounds crooked to me

[BMWST?]

The current system is subject to significant abuse. All sysyems are. Because of its current size, it's as much as the enforcement side can cope with.

If the curerent system went full gas, including all vehicles, the abuse would be beyond the coping ability of enforcement, without a ramping up of the enforcement system itself.

I know a lot of cops who won't write RUC tickets, as it's too close to being pure tax collection.

I have been driving diesels since 2011 and i never had a query about my ruc. My only intereactions with officials in that time have been at about 4 or 5 random breath tests. In the same interval i have taken my cars to VTNZ for most of the WOFS apart from the last few years with a near new vehicle (either no check required or done at a service) I dont think there is a check box on the wof sheet to verify odometer with RUC label

[rastuscat]

I dont think there is a check box on the wof sheet to verify odometer with RUC label

Not yet.

If the RUC system ramps up (it's going to) then enforcement will have to ramp up to match it.

How that happens is not clear. WoF checks? Police? Roadside RUC checks?

NZTA has recently contracted a private company, Acusensus, to take the speed camera photos. Is that a sign of the future? Private enforcement of RUC?

That's the problem with annoucing a plan with no details. We all have to speculate as to the details.

[jellywrestler]

That's the problem with annoucing a plan with no details. We all have to speculate as to the details.

no we don't, most people are doing better things with their lives

[nerrrd]

NZTA has recently contracted a private company, Acusensus, to take the speed camera photos. Is that a sign of the future? Private enforcement of RUC?

Investors certainly seem to think so.

Eroad stock jumps 25% after update on road user charges.