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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    Don't need 20 demerits, perhaps not the best time to buy a Hayabusa.
    You'd be very unlucky to get ticketed. My friend the GS rider leaves his bike on hold for 9 months a year and was stopped for speeding a few months ago. The cop never ran the plate, so he only got a speeding ticket. It was his 3rd speeding ticket in 2 years, so just as well!

    I've had the same experience after being stopped. They are usually far more interested in checking your licence for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaferRides View Post
    You'd be very unlucky to get ticketed. My friend the GS rider leaves his bike on hold for 9 months a year and was stopped for speeding a few months ago. The cop never ran the plate, so he only got a speeding ticket. It was his 3rd speeding ticket in 2 years, so just as well!

    I've had the same experience after being stopped. They are usually far more interested in checking your licence for some reason.
    GS as in GS Suzuki? Probably old enough to get the cheap classic registration.
    it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
    those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    GS as in GS Suzuki? Probably old enough to get the cheap classic registration.
    BMW GS 1250. It's got a few years to go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaferRides View Post
    You'd be very unlucky to get ticketed. My friend the GS rider leaves his bike on hold for 9 months a year and was stopped for speeding a few months ago. The cop never ran the plate, so he only got a speeding ticket. It was his 3rd speeding ticket in 2 years, so just as well!

    I've had the same experience after being stopped. They are usually far more interested in checking your licence for some reason.
    never ran the plate? they do ticketing on line now don't they, it must be standard and automatically done

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    GS as in GS Suzuki? Probably old enough to get the cheap classic registration.
    Or Gold Star????

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    never ran the plate? they do ticketing on line now don't they, it must be standard and automatically done
    Tickets have come in the post for years now. But they don't automatically add WoF and rego tickets if they're expired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaferRides View Post
    Tickets have come in the post for years now. But they don't automatically add WoF and rego tickets if they're expired.

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    yes but on the roadside they do them on a device, and you'ds be pretty sure the plate automatically comes up with details, they'd be silly not too, and it's up to them what they chose to swipe

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaferRides View Post
    I'm careful on main roads with my speed.
    That's one of the unintended benefits of what they are doing.

    If we are riding on hold, it's likely we will avoiu d doing stuff that draws attention from the federalis.

    Thus reducing the speed we normally see by bikes on the open road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    Or Gold Star????
    Or Great Scott.
    Ok I'm reaching. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Or Great Scott.
    Ok I'm reaching. . .
    Here you go: Gelände/Straße

    No prizes for guessing the meaning...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    That's one of the unintended benefits of what they are doing.

    If we are riding on hold, it's likely we will avoiu d doing stuff that draws attention from the federalis.

    Thus reducing the speed we normally see by bikes on the open road.
    Yeah mate, don't nothin stoopid and the boys won't look at you. (riding on hold !!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    That's one of the unintended benefits of what they are doing.

    If we are riding on hold, it's likely we will avoiu d doing stuff that draws attention from the federalis.

    Thus reducing the speed we normally see by bikes on the open road.
    But does it reduce the accident rate? Is there a box on the form that indicates registration status of a crashed vehicle?
    it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
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    In case anyone in Auckland wants to attend a useless protest...

    Mass motorcycle convoy to ‘occupy’ Auckland Harbour Bridge in protest of ‘unfair’ ACC levies

    I vaguely recall there was going to be some further differentiation in ACC rates depending on vehicle safety ratings around the same time as the motorcycle changes within the car fleet, funny how that didn't last.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    But does it reduce the accident rate? Is there a box on the form that indicates registration status of a crashed vehicle?
    There is a box on the data collected by the Police that becomes the national crash database. I have posted various different analyses of that data on here over the years, including engine size, make and model, rider licence status etc.

    The problem is, as far as I understand it, that the ACC take their data from hospital records and as far as vehicle details are concerned they are not going to be as detailed as that collected by the Police. I say that but having never made an ACC motoring claim I don't know what information they collect.

    I could update my analysis to the latest data but it only proves what I already know. And in recent years the quality of the national crash database has fallen so far it is really no longer fit for purpose.

    IMO engine size on its own is in no way a determinant of crash risk so the whole ACC thinking is flawed from the outset. If you are going down that route you need to be bike specific and you need to take into account the riding history of the person involved but no, no, that's not how ACC works blah blah blah.

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