CORO LOOP WARNING

[jrandom]

Nope. No troll. Principle of the thing. Suppose a scooter club wanted to organise a race...

as was eloquently pointed out earlier, said club should call the regional council in question and put the idea forrard.

Why should people die more readily on motorcycles than push bikes, other factors being equal ? Motorcyclist has better protection...

because the factors are *not* all equal. an open-class motorcycle race around that loop would reach speeds well over 200kph.

I know if I had to come off at 80kph I'd rather come off a motorcycle than a pushbike

wouldn't we all.

So why can push bikes claim to race on the public roads more or less as a matter of right but for everybody else it's breaking the law.

they can't. These are officially-sanctioned events wot are carefully evaluated by the relevant authorities for risk, reward and general inconvenience factor.

generally speaking if several hundred shaved-leg types on pushies decided to just hop onto the public highway one weekend and race around Coro I suspect they'd be rounded up by plod within the first 10km and sent home after some severe finger-waggling and ticket-writing.

"cyclists" boxes... if they can, so should motorcycles be able to)

aren't any rules at intersections that differ for bicycles and motorcycles.

you will find that most regular riders in city traffic on pushies have their own little set of lawbreaking activities that they engage in as a matter of course to maximise survivability and minimise time from A to B.

I don't know any of them who've been hauled up by plod for it but that doesn't mean that they're not running the risk...

[aff-man]

fastest you'd ever get on your roadbike throughout the K2 would be mebbe 80kph.

no speed limits being broken.

people don't often die.

you don't need a 50m gravel runoff area to keep a pushbike race reasonably safe.

...

you're trolling, aren't you?

crashing at 80km/h on a pushbike..... feck that.

Yeh I was riding the loop when there was this cycle race. Worse part was going up that really windy hill (25km corners) not sure what it's called just before coro town. Came accross more than 1 cyclist walking thier bike up the hill. Now that in itself is not a problem the fact that they were wlaking in the middle of the lane to the middle of the road or walking 3 abreast was what really got me........... Support vehicles are also idiots. I see the necessity but at least you can get past cyclists....

[Big Dave]

We struck psyclists racing in Arthurs Pass in Feb. Absolute friggin' curse, all over the road at 15 km/h and the support vehicles were worse. They were doing the same speed in the oncoming lane while talking to the riders.

Ha small world - so did we - but i used the 15kph to stop and take a ton of photos I never wouuld have got at normal pace.

[RiderInBlack]

Cyclist can end up withe serious injuries too. Last Sun I stop for a downed cyclist. He'd flipped over the haddlebars going down hill. He was concussed when I got to him. Would have been worse if he didn't have a cycle helmet, but at down hill speeds only motorbike gear would have done him any good. 1/2 hour for the Ambo and another 1/2 before they had him packed and on the way to Hospital (at least 25mins away from there). Hope they have a good day without incident. Do them a favour guys and girls and not ride there that day (plenty of other road and you can have more fun without them).

[curious george]

Why should people die more readily on motorcycles than push bikes, other factors being equal ?

Motorcycles = faster = more kinetic energy to disperse. Often that seems to be trasnfered through the aortic arch......[/QUOTE]

So why can push bikes claim to race on the public roads more or less as a matter of right but for everybody else it's breaking the law.

Bwahahahaha! Have you ever tried to organise a race?
O.M.F.G. What a pain in the arse that is.
The police used to be quite helpful, but with budgets getting smaller, and higher priorities, cyclings has to HIRE the police, like ambo's, if there is to be any chance to start the thing.
I remember the last race I was involved in... Major door knock, leaflet drop to every house to try and win support. I couldda won an election on that alone...
ANyway, if even one of the buggers was against it, = no race. You bastards in Mt Eden know who you are.

[saul]

YOU RIDE THAT ROAD TO MUCH ANYWAYS
IM SUPRISED YA NOT DIZZY
BEST YOU GUY`S COME FOR A ON SUN DAY 30TH YA NANA`S
SEE CALENDER FOR DETAILS

Thanks for the invite but I can't go far this weekend

Still I am sure you will have a great time

[curious george]

When they obey even half the rules they're supposed to, I'll respect them.

So when you keep to the speed limit, and are a model rider, the same applies?

Simple answer is 'COS YOU CAN"T MAKE ME!!!!
I have no rego, plates or any id.... Muhahahahahaha
When I crash a red light, it's because I can get away from the morons at the lights, and not get sandwiched in the usuall rush from the lights.

My cycling road rules are as follows:
Don't hit anything, or let anything hit me.
Nothing else matters.
Spend a week on a bike, and I think you'll agree

[Bulldog]

I've been a keen cyclist since I was knee high ..... and I could write a book on the dangers of cycling around auckland. At least on your motorbike you have power to get you out of situations and you get to ride in the lane rather than to the side.

I'm an avid mountain biker, jumps, stairs and general lairing it up. Woodhill runs etc.

I've ridden from NSW to Melbourne in OZ amongst other big rides and I can tell you Auckland has the worst drivers period! Driver training needs to be changed here as people are way too incociderate and hostile over here.

Here's a few hazards.

Bicycle lanes full of glass from crashes.
Cars stopping in the lanes in traffic
Cars pulling in and out of side streets under estimating your speed
Cars pulling across on you after just passing you.
Opening of doors on you (that's a 3 times a week occurance where I ride)
Pedestrians walking out on you
I could keep going but it'll wind up all the cyclists here.

All this and I still cycle 4 times a week and ride motorbikes

Remember a cyclist has as many rights on the road as any other vehicle, it's just a whole lot more dangerous!

[Lou Girardin]

[QUOTE=Fish

says the man who gets stopped every day by the Highway Patrol so that they can shake his hand for making their job easier...[/QUOTE]

Not Moi. I'm a cop - attention free zone.

[Lou Girardin]

Ha small world - so did we - but i used the 15kph to stop and take a ton of photos I never wouuld have got at normal pace.

Did you meet the Aussies on Ducs?

[Lou Girardin]

So when you keep to the speed limit, and are a model rider, the same applies?

Simple answer is 'COS YOU CAN"T MAKE ME!!!!
I have no rego, plates or any id.... Muhahahahahaha
When I crash a red light, it's because I can get away from the morons at the lights, and not get sandwiched in the usuall rush from the lights.

My cycling road rules are as follows:
Don't hit anything, or let anything hit me.
Nothing else matters.
Spend a week on a bike, and I think you'll agree

OK then. I can accelerate away from moron cagers. You'll just have to accept that being so much slower than other traffic you will be a target for pissed off drivers.
Well done. Injuries take longer to fix than panels.

[jrandom]

OK then. I can accelerate away from moron cagers.

ah, yes, but when the prophecies in the Book of Rod Donald are proven true, ye shall repent, and there shall be much gnashing of the teeth, yea verily, as you find that burger-and-beer-powered transportation is much in demand, whilst you yourself are too unfit to make use o'it and must devote 70% of your after-tax income to dinosaur juice.

also, you might be surprised at how quickly a pushbike can accelerate across an intersection when required.

[Patrick]

Just a slight aside...what a great ride that loop is!!!!

We (four of us) were up there for Labour weekend and we did the Coromandel to Kuautunu (sp???) trip...awesome, a real must do for bikers. Saw heaps of bikers too, even the Harleys waved back.

Enjoyed it so much that Storm(Waitara) said lets do it again. Just about finished the 2nd run and she had a low speed "off" when a cage cutting the corner came at her and she braked to avoid. Did a small superman as she was bucked off and broke a bone in her hand

Cage kept going though, but another decent one stopped to help her.

Bike came out of it real good too, and the value of good gear proved its worth...saw a few out there in t shirts and shorts...

Then to top it off, while going through to Thames for xrays along the coastal road, they saw a biker (not a KBer) dive for the ditch and wipe out big time...his 3 week old Beemer is a complete write off but he was unmarked (good gears again...). Twas another cage cutting the corner...deja vu???

Oh well...had to say something to get to post 200....

[Lou Girardin]

ah, yes, but when the prophecies in the Book of Rod Donald are proven true, ye shall repent, and there shall be much gnashing of the teeth, yea verily, as you find that burger-and-beer-powered transportation is much in demand, whilst you yourself are too unfit to make use o'it and must devote 70% of your after-tax income to dinosaur juice.

also, you might be surprised at how quickly a pushbike can accelerate across an intersection when required.

Being of independent means, I have no fear of fuel unaffordability.

When they actually stop for the lights, that is. But the dorks sure can move when they hear the Bandito at 10 grand right behind their earhole.

[Lou Girardin]

Just a slight aside...what a great ride that loop is!!!!

We (four of us) were up there for Labour weekend and we did the Coromandel to Kuautunu (sp???) trip...awesome, a real must do for bikers. Saw heaps of bikers too, even the Harleys waved back.

Enjoyed it so much that Storm(Waitara) said lets do it again. Just about finished the 2nd run and she had a low speed "off" when a cage cutting the corner came at her and she braked to avoid. Did a small superman as she was bucked off and broke a bone in her hand

Cage kept going though, but another decent one stopped to help her.

Bike came out of it real good too, and the value of good gear proved its worth...saw a few out there in t shirts and shorts...

Then to top it off, while going through to Thames for xrays along the coastal road, they saw a biker (not a KBer) dive for the ditch and wipe out big time...his 3 week old Beemer is a complete write off but he was unmarked (good gears again...). Twas another cage cutting the corner...deja vu???

Oh well...had to say something to get to post 200....

Get any regos?
Write any tickets?