Help, stats needed. V8 v Motormacycle

**Biff** · 29th October 2005, 13:13

Ok - a topic virtually done to death. But I work with a dick splash that swears a V8 car will beat 'any' motorbike around 'any' track. I've got all the general cage v bike stuff covered, but I've no evidence to back up the fact that a bike may be faster than a V8 (Holden, Ford things).

Any help, advice? Google isn't my friend today.

**James Deuce** · 29th October 2005, 13:23

1	51	Super Cheap Auto Racing	Greg Murphy	Holden Commodore VZ			1:51.3434

1

Josh BROOKES (NSW)

Honda CBR 1000

1:32.157

3

He said what? These stats are from this year. MotoGP bikes haven't been there yet but I would imagine the good guys would be in the mid-1:20s.

Silly man. Point out that the V8s are purpose built space frame cars, and the Superbikes are mildly modified road bikes.

**Motu** · 29th October 2005, 13:44

F1 goes to V8s next year,I doubt if they will be any slower than the V10s - I don't think any bike will stand a shit show against a V8 F1 car.....A 2005 R1 against an XC Falcon 302?....I think I might back the bike there.

**Ghost Lemur** · 29th October 2005, 14:00

Invite him out to ruapuna. Best time wins.

**Mental Trousers** · 29th October 2005, 14:02

Originally Posted by Ghost Lemur

Invite him out to ruapuna. Best time wins.

Loser buys the drinks, the food for the bbq and the strippers.

Oh, there's always that wee vid someone posted on here somewhere of a 999 beating a Lambo that 5th Gear did.

**masterofpuppets** · 29th October 2005, 14:07

Originally Posted by Motu

F1 goes to V8s next year,I doubt if they will be any slower than the V10s - I don't think any bike will stand a shit show against a V8 F1 car.....A 2005 R1 against an XC Falcon 302?....I think I might back the bike there.

yeah but im pretty sure ther eis a bit of differnce between F1 and v8 "super"cars. yep the v8's will be just as good in the F1. teams will still be allowed to use v10 but have to restrict them a little bit.

**Biff** · 29th October 2005, 14:30

Thanks Jim. A futon of sinformation be thee.

**Timber020** · 29th October 2005, 16:39

Ill race him for vehicle titles. Could use a V8 as bait for bogan hunting season.

**TonyB** · 29th October 2005, 17:16

Amazing how often you strike these dickheads. Let me guess:
- he wouldn't be seen dead in a Ford (or a Holden depending on his bias)
- a V8 Supercar is just like an HSV/ FPV
- his V8 will take down your crappy rice burner motorbike
- his V8 gets unheard of economy figures..... but it's only expressed in 'tanks' of gas. He's never actually worked out how many ks/litre it gets
- you nearly wet yourself when he was amazed that your bike needs filling up on the way to Nelson (or some other 4 hour trip). As he can't admit to himself that his V8 is a gas guzzler, he only works things out in the affore mentioned tanks per distance measure.... therefore he thinks your bike uses more gas than his car
- his V8 is quicker than his mates uncles Porshe 911 turbo whatsit "off the line", whatever the fuck that means...

**Kickaha** · 29th October 2005, 17:18

www.mylaps.com and do a track search for Pukekohe or Manfield (I couldn't be arsed) then you can do a direct comparison of bikes in NZ vs V8 Supertaxi racing

**TonyB** · 29th October 2005, 17:57

I could be arsed. For Pukekohe, the production superbikes are a smidgeon quicker than the Porche GT3's. Both in the mid to low 58's for the rounds I looked at. Couldn't see any times for the V8 supercars. Are the GT3's quicker?

**avgas** · 29th October 2005, 18:06

I remember a few years ago Tony Ree's racing his ol' 98' R1 against a V8 supercar - or doing some track comparision or sommat.
Bike obviously won.
Would like to see a comparison with a catterham 500 vs ariel atom vs special bike (R7, RCV30?, RGV500 etc), as i think that would be closer.
The V8's are as bad as the F1's, banning 6/4 cyclinder cars well i never.
And then we had the demise of poor ol RT Chargers

**Hoon** · 29th October 2005, 18:34

Ummm I'm sorry but your friend is right. At Pukekohe the V8 Supercars do 55secs whereas Tony Rees R1 had the fastest lap of 57.6 at this years nationals.

Of course you could say that Rossi could do better on his bike but then you are just speculating.

However, V8 supercars also race at Shangai which is on the MotoGP calendar so this is the best comparison we can find but unfortunately the V8s do 1.49.6s against Gibernaus lap record of 159.7 in the dry.