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    Cautioned for Lane Splitting today.

    Welllll, I got it right from the source today.
    I've never been glad to get pulled over before - but I was today.

    I spent the day filling in for for harry holiday over at kiwi rider and was 'travelling' along the southern on my way home.

    Traffic was at a virtual standstill and I had been splitting lanes since spaghetti junction.

    I saw the motorcycle cop stationary and checking me out on the layover before Newmarket flyover and continued to split - fully aware that this will truly test the validity of what i have read on KB.

    As I have done since participating in the discussion here, I continued unchanged - 20kph tolerance, due care, not trying to piss anyone off and as safely as a reasonably dangerous thing to do allows. (learners - don't do this.)

    500mtrs and it's whooop and a flash of Blue and red.
    Beauty! even if this costs me - I'll KNOW.

    I was officially cautioned for overtaking on the left in the same lane and for failing to use my indicator when moving to the centre lane for the 3 seconds notice. I wasn't ticketed because I was behaving in a reasonable manner, just not quite in accordance with the road code.

    Thanks - and Bugger thinks I - because we all know that some vehicles block the right hand passing opportunity and an occasional drift into the 'low side' is unavoidable. Short answer is you must use your indicator and give the 3 seconds and don't overtake on the left or you will be yanked. You just have to wait till you can get by on their right.

    However!

    In the ensuing 'grilling' what did become evident is that with the current regulations splitting on the right in the inner or 'fast' lane (observing the rules stated above) is acceptable.

    The thin shoulder lane between the dividing barrier and the lanes is designated for an emergency and that if you have to go into it to avoid a vehicle it would be 'an emergency.'

    So - please, no cheesedicks screaming up the middle doing ghost rider impressions of you'll f*ck it for everyone. But the way it works now is you can split lanes - against the median in the fast lane - overtaking on the right - as long as it's within 20kph of flow, sensible, duly considerate and you observe the road code and you can use the emergency lane if you absolutely have to in avoiding another vehicle.
    The other 2 lanes can be split also - but you must not pass on the left in the same lane and you have to indicate when swapping.

    I reckon I won't get cautioned again - actually feel I'm better off for the chat. even got complemented on how nice my bike was.

    And whilst i could not draw a comment about the Bus lane usage issue - they are just not allowed to - I bet if we were at a bar somewhere and he was in civies he would have said - bloody good idea'.

    I also got instructions on where to find the media liaison officer and will be following that up with KR hat on for an official response.

    But that's as I understand it - all care no responsibility etc - good luck!

    dc

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    Prob with on the right of the right lane is that the cages keep to the right in that lane, leaving almost no gap to the emergency strip. So this leaves no room there but heaps between the fast lane and the next over lane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paturoa
    Prob with on the right of the right lane is that the cages keep to the right in that lane, leaving almost no gap to the emergency strip. So this leaves no room there but heaps between the fast lane and the next over lane.
    Agree - but that's the rules.
    I think there is enough room on the southern when the traffic is absolutely crawling too. so we might be all right 80% of the time!

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    and there is a lot of mway now with no emergency right hand shoulder at all, just the concrete barrier next to the white line

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    Interesting post, BD. It's not often someone will put themselves "at risk" for the sake of clarification and our edification. Glad he was a reasonable sort and tried to explain the rules to you

    Personally I am loath to split and usually find I can filter through traffic fairly easily. Of course I am rarely on the bike at 'rush hour' as many who commute by bike are and if I'm in my truck I try to keep an eye out for bikes splitting and move over to facilitate their progress.

    Hope the efforts to get access to Bus Lanes is successful as it really is a 'no brainer'!
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    Quote Originally Posted by paturoa
    and there is a lot of mway now with no emergency right hand shoulder at all, just the concrete barrier next to the white line
    so use the other lanes - but don't overtake on the left and indicate when changing.

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    Yeah. Nice in theory but in reality the cagers in the left lane stay left, the cagers in the right lane stay right, leaving a safe lane in the middle.

    I'll take my chances with the occasional fine for unsafe lane changing rather than some fuckwit taking me out while I'm obeying the law thanks very much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer
    Yeah. Nice in theory but in reality the cagers in the left lane stay left, the cagers in the right lane stay right, leaving a safe lane in the middle.

    I'll take my chances with the occasional fine for unsafe lane changing rather than some fuckwit taking me out while I'm obeying the law thanks very much.
    Hmm - I hear you - the bits of the motorway I use regularly have reasonably good middle emegency lanes. I feel better knowing I can drift into them occasionally and be within the rules.

    I also now know for sure what gets me yanked when I do spot a cop.

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    Yeah but its a dumb law, keep your eyes peeled for the plod, I split in the gap in the far right lane as people hug the right and leave a far safer splitting option on the left of their lane see pic direction of travel up/north from the HB
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    Did he ride a honda bike?? He must be having fun then... except he had his way with me. First time I have ever been pulled, and I got the $150 fine...

    The way cars position themselves in the lane is my biggest gripe. I don't want to be right next to the car (as in almost touching their mirror), I'm pretty damn sure they don't want me right next to them... but... according to the genius law, I have to put myself in danger in order to be safer... stupidity at its best.

    The technical arguement about being in blindspots is bullshit. I'm just as much in their blindspot when on the right of another car, a few centimetres to the left, yet suddenly its safer and legal.

    When I asked the cop why I should place myself in more danger, he said perhaps I should sit in traffic that is almost stationary.... riiiiiiight, and have my fan running, bike getting extremely hot, and me spending twice/thrice the time it would normally take...

    Honestly, I feel safer with some room to move, and cars I have noticed will deliberately try to block my way by sitting on the extreme right of the lane. By law, I would never be able to pass. Do you think I want to be anywhere near a wanker like that??

    He's going to keep pinging us, just because he can. I wish he would find another motorway to sit on. I'm going to do my best to move along those routes, if I have to, at non-rush hour periods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave
    Agree - but that's the rules.
    And a dumb rule, they have laws specifically for MW's wrt to the bus issue. Why not a special one the allows passing between rows of traffic rather than this silly to the right of them/left of the line business, dumb laws dont save lives

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin
    Honestly, I feel safer with some room to move, and cars I have noticed will deliberately try to block my way by sitting on the extreme right of the lane. By law, I would never be able to pass. Do you think I want to be anywhere near a wanker like that??
    They are all failing to keep to the left so maybe the cops can go start enforcing that law before they hammer us!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX
    They are all failing to keep to the left so maybe the cops can go start enforcing that law before they hammer us!

    That's valid too - but it's more to do with educating drivers and courtesy perhaps - Kiwi drivers and the way they pull over to let us past on the open road are really very good - I wonder how we can convince them to do it a 15kph?

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    Chur for that BD. The feds don't seem to be so harsh down here but I always pull back in when I spot them anyway.

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    Thanks for testing the legalities there big dave. Just out of curiosity what were you riding at the time?

    I'll have a bit of a test there myself.
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