Shell Helix Ultra

[Gontour]

okay, I was in Kmart and 'browsing' the oil section and picked up some Shell Helix Ultra , Is this okay for my bike ??? (wet clutch), I should have got a bike specific oil but will it really matter (clutch slip,Gear Engegement)??????

Cheers

[bugjuice]

use bike oil in your bike. It ain't just the writing on the bottle that's different ya know.. unless you don't like your bike any more, in which case, go for it and let us know how it goes

[XTC]

I use Diesel oil in my bike.... But that doesn't have the friction modifiers that some car oils have. These additives can cause clutch slippage in wet clutches.

[madboy]

ditto buggie... as i understand it, car oil is not for bikes.

[Gontour]

use bike oil in your bike. It ain't just the writing on the bottle that's different ya know..

Hence the question

[Postie]

i wouldn't use that in a bike personally. if you got it from Kmart and you haven't used it/opened it, just take it back, get your cash back and go to a bike shop. it'll be worth it in the long run. or call a bike shop and check with the experts to see if you can use it without any bad side affects

[Motu]

What viscosity? Shell Helix Ultra is a fully synthetic oil and contains no friction modifiers,it doesn't need to being fully synthetic.It's not even available in the US where they have to use friction modified oils to pass economy tests.

You don't want it,bring it to me,I'd be real happy to run that in any bike - you don't need bike oil in your bike.

[inlinefour]

okay, I was in Kmart and 'browsing' the oil section and picked up some Shell Helix Ultra , Is this okay for my bike ??? (wet clutch), I should have got a bike specific oil but will it really matter (clutch slip,Gear Engegement)??????

Cheers

I only use specific oils for bikes. The bloke also makes a very valid point about the deisel oil also

[Gontour]

What viscosity? Shell Helix Ultra is a fully synthetic oil and contains no friction modifiers,it doesn't need to being fully synthetic.It's not even available in the US where they have to use friction modified oils to pass economy tests..

Motu you sound like you know what you are talking about,
(not that the rest of you don't) But if youre sure there are no friction modifiers in Shell Helix Ultra then I imagine its sweet,and youre right it is fully synthetic and for 50 odd $ I thought it was good value........and its 5W-40.

Thanks for everyones input...so far

[kerryg]

Motu you sound like you know what you are talking about,
(not that the rest of you don't) But if youre sure there are no friction modifiers in Shell Helix Ultra then I imagine its sweet,and youre right it is fully synthetic and for 50 odd $ I thought it was good value........and its 5W-40.

Thanks for everyones input...so far

This topic has been covered many times. There are lots of different views and lots of information around and probably no clear consensus but when people advise you to use a bike oil (one made for bikes specifically) it's safe advice. You CAN use certain car oils as Motu says, you just have to have the nous to identify which car oil is OK and which is not which Motu does 'cos he's a spanner-man and most of us don't, so we (the less well-informed) go for the bike oils to be safe.

I had a hotted up old GSXR1100J with over 150 crankshaft HP and the guy who built the engine (Terry Reid) recommended ordinary cheap Shell Helix in the yellow container (straight mineral car oil), and it was fine. Not a sign of clutch slip, gears shifted fine, engine ran sweet.


My 2 cents

[Gontour]

Cheers, I have sent an e-mail to Shell through there web site and will post the result should they actually get back to me, in the meantime I shall ride with dirty oil, Probably doing more harm than ANY new clean stuff.

Cheers

[Brian d marge]

Yes I also use desiel oil in my bikes ,,it has a lot of detergent in it and has a higher film shear strength ...If you have a look on the side panal of the can there are some numbers and letter .XXXX su or XXXXsj if you can tell me what those numbers are I can tell you a bit more about the oil...but as Motu said if it doesnt contain friction modifiers you will be ok ....Really the only thing ,,if the oil is miereal it breaks down quicker , a fully synthetic can be left for some unbelievable mileages ....
Me I use average mobile ...motul and de[ending on the temp of the engine I choose the viscosity.....

Stephen

[Gontour]

Yes I also use desiel oil in my bikes ,,it has a lot of detergent in it and has a higher film shear strength ...If you have a look on the side panal of the can there are some numbers and letter .XXXX su or XXXXsj if you can tell me what those numbers are I can tell you a bit more about the oil...but as Motu said if it doesnt contain friction modifiers you will be ok ....Really the only thing ,,if the oil is miereal it breaks down quicker , a fully synthetic can be left for some unbelievable mileages ....
Me I use average mobile ...motul and de[ending on the temp of the engine I choose the viscosity.....

Stephen

Well you asked so here it is, and thanks for your interest.

Shell Helix Ultra

SAE 5W 40, fully synthetic.

Ultimate protection for performance motoring.

Performance Specifications:
API SJ/CF; ACEA A3/B3-98; Ford M2C - 15 3 E; VW 500, 502, 505; MB sheet 229.1.

Approved by Porche and BMW. Qualified for all Japanese engines. Factory fill for Ferrari.

Recommended for all naturally aspirated, fuel injected, turbo charged and multi valve passenger car engines fuelled by gasoline, diesel and LPG.

[Brian d marge]

Well you asked so here it is, and thanks for your interest.

Shell Helix Ultra

SAE 5W 40, fully synthetic.


Performance Specifications:
API SJ/CF; ACEA A3/B3-98; Ford M2C - 15 3 E; VW 500, 502, 505; MB sheet 229.1.

Approved by Porche and BMW. Qualified for all Japanese engines. Factory fill for Ferrari.
LPG.

Coor that was quick ...I m not even out of me pit yet ....when I finish this coffee ,,,Ill get up and find me info on it ,,,,
BTW I like the way it says for BMW and porche ,,,like I am supposed to be impressed ,,,is it going to help my Morrie minor go faster???

Back later

Stephen

[Gontour]

Cheers, I shall check back for a definative answer.

and thanks for your time dude