Doing a runner

[sAsLEX]

I remember a few years ago there was a gap in the law which prevented police from following you onto private property if they did not suspect you of comitting a crime..

used to be they couldnt follow you onto a defence base, there is an interesting book by an army officer that tells of using this escape technique only to have a MP sitting in the cop car so they just followed him on

[marty]

If you are heading into the countryside along a road you know well and the cop decides to chase, then you've probably got a chance.
The way I look at it is, I would give it a go if the conditions were right, especially if the cop had clocked me doing possibly 50+ over the limit, then you've got nothing to lose.
I know for a fact that no other traffic cops live out my way, and I know for sure I could outrun any cop on my twisty country roads as I know every inch of them having ridden them for 20 years+
Of course I'd never try it officer!

unfortunately (for you) a good number of cops live in rural cambridge, and a few of them ride those back roads often, and fast....

and it's not like there's 5 alstare 600's in cambridge to choose from i mean, i don't know you from a bar of soap, but i know your bike....

[number33]

Did a runner on my H1 decades ago heading from Taupo to Turangi. Cop U-turned with flashing lights near the lake front. Being 17 or 18 or so, I gassed it. H1's don't handle BTW. Hit 1.8 - 1.9 in a few places. Had the shits up the whole time. Eventually skidded to a stop and threw the bike on it's side in the roadside scrub. Lay there shaking and sweating. Cop howled past about one minute behind. Lay in the scrub till fucken dark. Slithered home nervous as hell. Didn't ride for a couple weeks after.

[2_SL0]

Im going to state the obvious, but my guess a lot LESS people here do runners than believed. I have a friend who was a policeman in Auckland for aprox 5yrs.
I quizzed him on this subject. He told me he had only been involved in one incident and the fool went into a highrise car park, then fell off the bike and was busted. I dare say it can be done, but I think your find you get caught. Your not Rossi, its not a race track and if plod dont catch u the bus turning right will.

[Motu]

People who do runners,or any other crime for that matter seem to have a very small veiw of the picture - so many other people are involved that they are usualy tracked down...it's how the Police work.I once kmew a guy who staged a fake accident on a remote road so he could claim the insurance on the car,just pushed it over a bank.But a farmer he didn't see saw him - you just don't know who else is watching...

[spudchucka]

I remember a few years ago there was a gap in the law which prevented police from following you onto private property if they did not suspect you of comitting a crime. The little loophole has now been plugged!

Section 119 Land Transport Act.

[madboy]

Im going to state the obvious, but my guess a lot LESS people here do runners than believed. ... I dare say it can be done, but I think your find you get caught. ....

I'd have to disagree with you there. From my experience, it would seem that a lot more people do runners, they just don't talk about it. Not too many people openly admit to blatantly illegal acts.

I can give you dates, times and descriptions of every single runner I've been involved in on a bike. I keep those records, mainly for interests sake, but also because I have a tendency to forget when I've done them. Realistically, in the last two years, there have been only a handful of occasions. You ask the people who've ridden with me, they know that I'm always a pursuit waiting to happen. However some things you just don't say on a public forum.

A pursuit happens as a result of two individuals actions. 1, the officer decides to stop the bike. That can be because of something the bike is doing, or even as benign as a random check. 2, the biker decides to bugger off. 3, the officer then decides to pursue.

If, at anywhere in that chain of events, someone decides to do something different, then no pursuit eventuates. That's why there are so few pursuits of bikes, because someone in the chain of events makes a decision that it's not going to happen.

[T.I.E]

i was gievn some advice, via a helpful friend whom has been pursuded and also same advice from a boy in blue.
hiding is good as they are always expecting a chase and try not to turn left.
its easier turning left than right and thats what they expect.
now thats out is probably changed.
and i agree you have about 1-2 minutes otherwise your screwed.
and hiding is so much easier than running. it's amazing where you can hide.

if you see him doing a u turn duck around the corner and try a u turn and watch his expression. as your still going the other way.

[SimJen]

unfortunately (for you) a good number of cops live in rural cambridge, and a few of them ride those back roads often, and fast....
and it's not like there's 5 alstare 600's in cambridge to choose from i mean, i don't know you from a bar of soap, but i know your bike....

True my bike is easy to spot, but they'd have to catch me & prove it was me first Its not like i'd actually bother running, its just that if conditions were right I'm sure I could (and I like to think I could get away).
Also i've never seen a cop bike in my area of rural cambridge, so if it was only commodes/falcoons they were using then it'd be too easy although a heavy cop bike isn't the fastest thing in the world either.
Radio's only work if you have someone the other end in the right place, not likely to happen in remote rural areas.....although it would be just my luck if they did
I have a few detectives in plain clothes vehicles living out my way, some of them I've even raced in my car (before I sold it), they are crazy drivers but not that fast. And obviously pretty cool guys.

[vtec]

Here's another idea. Not speaking from experience, cause I've never done a runner, or even been fined on a bike. But there are numerous walkways around Auckland, and heaps in my area, you wouldn't even need to speed to get away. Just dawdle along with the police behind, until you get to the nearest unbarred walkway, and go through it. Then nail it once you get out on the other side.

[SimJen]

Or to be really different, you could carry a container of Latex paint with you at all times. You need to escape and hide, then quickly paint your bike with said Latex paint, blow on it to dry, then cruise off in the direction you came from.......voila, a crap painted bike, no ticket and hours needed to peel it all off.

[Lou Girardin]

Don't forget to carry a change of kit too, different helmet, jacket etc. Some stage make-up wouldn't go astray, they'd never suspect a white guy in black face.

[Goblin]

[QUOTE=T.I.E]i was gievn some advice, via a helpful friend whom has been pursuded and also same advice from a boy in blue.
hiding is good as they are always expecting a chase and try not to turn left.
its easier turning left than right and thats what they expect.
now thats out is probably changed.

I have heard this too, if you are doing a runner, take the second on the right cos they expect you to take the first left. I think hiding would be the best bet.
I unintentionally did a runner the first day I had my Impulse. Was working as a car detailer and had washed my new toy so decided to dry it out by going for a spin. Roared off up the road and decided to see what I could get out of it so went up the Dansey rd and opened it up on the straight. It went rather well for a wee 400. Slowed down to do a U-turn and head back to work. Well a muffty cop was in HOT persuit and waved me down and jumped out of his car and he was all worked up. His manifold was so hot it was pinking as it cooled. He had a female collegue in the passenger seat and when I took my lid off she nearly pissed herself laughing. They thought I was doing a runner so had called for back-up and wouldnt let me off. I had no idea they were even behind me(forgot to clean the mirror) Cost me $400 and some demerits.
I also did a runner on an FJ1200 with the owner on the back.

[2much]

Probably would given the right senario. However, only time I've been pulled over on a bike was riding a mate's Bonnie......... not exactly the greatest get away vehicle!

[marty]

True my bike is easy to spot, but they'd have to catch me & prove it was me first Its not like i'd actually bother running, its just that if conditions were right I'm sure I could (and I like to think I could get away).
Also i've never seen a cop bike in my area of rural cambridge, so if it was only commodes/falcoons they were using then it'd be too easy although a heavy cop bike isn't the fastest thing in the world either.
Radio's only work if you have someone the other end in the right place, not likely to happen in remote rural areas.....although it would be just my luck if they did
I have a few detectives in plain clothes vehicles living out my way, some of them I've even raced in my car (before I sold it), they are crazy drivers but not that fast. And obviously pretty cool guys.

actually, you have to prove it wasn't you. and there is excellent radio coverage on the south waikato channel (off sanatorium hill). and you'll never see a police bike, but the HP/STU guys know the back rds pretty well, especially how they link up with the other end, and the invariable HP/STU car working at that end.....

and D's don't give a toss anyways....