Doing a runner

**SimJen** · 10th November 2005, 14:56

Whatever but I can guarantee they don't know the roads by my house as good as I do!
You never see patrol cars up there whether weekdays or weekends, so I seriously doubt they know them at all.....

**Lou Girardin** · 10th November 2005, 15:00

Actually they have to prove he committed the offence. He has to identify the rider if he claims it wasn't him.
Yeah, I know it's pedantic. But the law's the law.

**2_SL0** · 10th November 2005, 15:27

Originally Posted by madboy

I'd have to disagree with you there. From my experience, it would seem that a lot more people do runners, they just don't talk about it. Not too many people openly admit to blatantly illegal acts.

I can give you dates, times and descriptions of every single runner I've been involved in on a bike. I keep those records, mainly for interests sake, but also because I have a tendency to forget when I've done them. Realistically, in the last two years, there have been only a handful of occasions. You ask the people who've ridden with me, they know that I'm always a pursuit waiting to happen. However some things you just don't say on a public forum.

A pursuit happens as a result of two individuals actions. 1, the officer decides to stop the bike. That can be because of something the bike is doing, or even as benign as a random check. 2, the biker decides to bugger off. 3, the officer then decides to pursue.

If, at anywhere in that chain of events, someone decides to do something different, then no pursuit eventuates. That's why there are so few pursuits of bikes, because someone in the chain of events makes a decision that it's not going to happen.

Clarify doing a runner, I see it as police car in pursuit lights on, you on the bike fully aware and attempting to escape.
The other side of the coin is you riding along ( a little over the limit, hehehe)
come round a corner and ooops Mr Plod, you dont hang around. You GAS IT.
But did the police car turn around or not, your never know. My guess is he weighed up the time it would take to turn around and decided not worth the effort. (No Offence to Mr Plod). But you believe you have just masterminded the greatest escape. Whether or not the Plod was actually aware he was suposedly in pursuit.
I imagine most people do the old evasion trick, but I dont refer to that as "doing a runner". Its more a "hide and seek"

Oh and if you keep your own records, (great idea by the way) you proberly should video these moments as well. Just for your own record of course.

**R1** · 10th November 2005, 15:45

Yeah I had a mate the coppers used road spikes on, he got off (just) coz it was demed(sp) excesive use of force...but this was years ago when fireblades were fast....

IMO if the chase is going to last more than seconds ie 30secs(is a life time when ya being chased) then ya best to give up!

I got chaced back from Akoroa a while back, not good when there aint farkal roads to take, looseing the copper was easy, but wondering where the next one was....now that SUCKS, then on my return to town i was a nervous wreck tring to get home un-noticed by the 5 oh..

And turning left once out of sight is a good idea, but I wouldnt plan your whole get away around it...cops are stupid at times but they aint dumb...

**madboy** · 10th November 2005, 16:28

Originally Posted by Kawagreen

Clarify doing a runner, I see it as police car in pursuit lights on, you on the bike fully aware and attempting to escape.

If the lights come on, it's a runner.

Now "attempting to escape" is where there may be some confusion. You see, I'm heading down said road at 220km/h, intending to sit on this speed for a while until I reach a certain point, then I slow down (moderately) for the final kilometre or so until I reach my destination. Now this was the plan before any flashing lights were involved. So if flashing lights do become involved, and you continuing travelling at the speed and in the manner that you were intending to travel at had the flashing lights not been activated and by the fact of power/weight, local knowledge, madness, whatever, said flashing lights never catch up with you... but no deliberate evasive action was taken in addition to what your intentions were to start with...

Is that a runner?

And Aaron, had a run in on SH1 one day with HP, didn't want to deviate from where I was off to, so just wound it on, left it there for a few minutes, scared the shit outta myself wheelying at 250k, thought oh well, bettered to get rodgered by baton than fence, buttoned off and sat at 110km/h. Never saw anyone else of interest. Never deviated from SH1. But talk about nervous!!!!

**2_SL0** · 10th November 2005, 17:42

Is the moon made of cheese? Is the world flat? Will Winja ever get his roof painted?

**justsomeguy** · 10th November 2005, 18:08

Originally Posted by avgas

Few things,
a) Dont do it unless i needs to be done
b) Make it a breif as possible - if you still have cops within some visiable distance after 2 mins, ur fucked. Preferably you need to be 1K distance between you and then BEFORE 1min - if not your fucked.

a) Yeah - if you're well over the 50 limit.....

b) Make that 1 min... actually 30 secs.

Then you can pull the - Oh sorry didn't even know you were following me excuse..... if he's still behind you after a minute you better have a very common bike and no plates and no fear.... or just bloody stop.

Be polite, respectful and they may downgrade the charges......although it's like losing your virginity....... you can only do it once.... then you have a history.

**justsomeguy** · 10th November 2005, 18:12

[quote=Goblin]

Originally Posted by T.I.E

I have heard this too, if you are doing a runner, take the second on the right cos they expect you to take the first left. I think hiding would be the best bet.

Really are you supposed to have that much time???

**Mattyc** · 10th November 2005, 18:23

A mate did a runner all the way down the north western a few years back on a nsr 250 (no license,wof, reg) he got off the motorway and caned into an industrial area, and laid the bike down in a long grassy vacant section , he thought he was safe until sold old guy flagged the cops down and told them there was some dude lying in the long grass.

I was going up manurewa hill one night on my old gixxer 400 and saw a maroon commie behind me, i was doing like 120, he looked like he wanted to have a bit of a race so i slammed it down to 4th and nailed it got to 160kmh before he flicked his lights on, i considered running, but then figured it aint worth it, pulled over and ended up loosing my license for 30 days, i didnt bother going to court and rung the court 3 months later , only to find i only lost the license for 30 days and i had been not riding or driving for three months ! FAK!!!

Bottom line is - would you rather loose your life or license ?

**zeRax** · 10th November 2005, 18:46

see slimjen, i had the idea of riding all the time with thin clip on fairings panels that just clip onto ur existing panels, duck in somewhere, take em off, toodaloo
. polar opposite color so they are looking for a completely different bike, misdirection is the answer i think.

i also had an idea of having a cut off switch for the brake light so u could stealth away. mate of mine stealthed it in his skyline, worked a charm, dodgy wtih lack of lighting thou

**justsomeguy** · 10th November 2005, 18:47

Originally Posted by zeRax

i also had an idea of having a cut off switch for the brake light so u could stealth away. mate of mine stealthed it in his skyline, worked a charm, dodgy wtih lack of lighting thou

Any progress on the idea??? Just curious of course.

**zeRax** · 10th November 2005, 18:55

well im assuming all u need to switch is cut a wires connectivity and hence, brake light no worky, anyone else know if its more envolved than that :O? , very easy to do either way i imagine, would work a treat too imo