Overtaking whilst on a group ride

**pyrocam** · 14th November 2005, 17:16

Originally Posted by crashe

Ok as the Queen of Slow (rider) on this site....

youd use your air horn more like

**crashe** · 14th November 2005, 17:20

Originally Posted by pyrocam

youd use your air horn more like

Hell yeah.....

**boomer** · 14th November 2005, 18:27

Originally Posted by juzzer

Wasn't some noisy prick on a VTR was it?

LIke this one??

**Leong** · 14th November 2005, 18:33

Originally Posted by bugjuice

the rule of thumb I hear the most, and I think makes sense, is that it's the responsibility of the overtaker to make sure it all goes well. If there's a good staight coming up, chances are the slower bike is going to make a break for it. If there's a short straight, and little chance of the slower bike having a go, then the faster bike could buzz both of them. Each case on it's own merit I guess, but generally, I'd wait for the slower rider to overtake first, unless there was a spot of road that there would be absolutely no chance of the bike having a go, but I could, I'd then buzz past safely if I can

Originally Posted by The_Dover

I would use the same etiquette that is enforced on ski slopes really, the person in front has the right of way because you have a clear enough view of them to make the better decision on when to pass. Always give way to the slower rider because if you're riding a big fast bike you should be responsible enough to wait for the right opportunity to pass, be it bike A or a car or both at the same time.

Why scare the shit out of someone or risk an accident just to get past in a hurry? They shouldn't have to give way to you just cos your bike is faster, it's good manners and if they know you are there then more than likely they'll wave you by, but they have track position and you are the one that has to perform the safe overtaking manouver.

As a newbie whose only been on 2 group rides and only started overtaking cars on his first group ride - yes the road code should apply, BUT within the group perhaps some courtesy as shown by Bugjuice and Dover above could apply. It is a "group" ride after all. If there is a long enough straight/opportunity then the faster bike could let slower one go first then pass both. There are always fewer passing opportunities for the less powerful and it's the main reason we crave more power!!.

Courtesy goes both ways though, so if we came to a shorter straight where the slower bike (me) couldn't pass, then I'd move left and let the faster bike thru. My "body language" would be obvious. If the bike behind's body language was aggressive, ie on the right, tailgating, then I would just move left and hope to follow the faster bike through.

I think it's also courteous for everyone to overtake as quickly as possible to maximise the opportunity for others. ( Within the 100km/h limit of course isn't that in the road code too )

**juzzer** · 14th November 2005, 19:11

Originally Posted by boomer

LIke this one??

Where's the black scooter on the other side?

**boomer** · 14th November 2005, 19:26

**juzzer** · 14th November 2005, 19:31

Originally Posted by boomer

Lol - that's more like it...hope you where looking in the mirror's and not trying to overtake

**avgas** · 14th November 2005, 19:34

"20 YES.......NO NO NO NO NO"

**T.I.E** · 14th November 2005, 19:35

i would expect bike "a" to hold off and give bike "b" the chance to overtake. if bike "b" has had reasonable chance to overtake and has not done so then and only then could bike "a" overtake in a safe and reasonable manner. trying not to scare the crap out of bike "B".

its not a track, when ya on your own and ya wanna go hard cool. but when ya got other riders drivers out there then you should pay them respect as the road is as much theirs as it is yours. you wanna race take it to the track where that sort of stuff is acceptable. but watch out for others.

**boomer** · 14th November 2005, 19:44

I've just noticed Dovers in the shot too

**juzzer** · 14th November 2005, 19:58

Originally Posted by boomer

I've just noticed Dovers in the shot too

Dover is looking over me shoulder...."Thats not me...to close to the road"...
He also said "Cunt".....

**texmo** · 14th November 2005, 20:05

LOL nice pic man

**Cibby** · 14th November 2005, 20:14

hmm..

I have nothing to say on this subject as we all know that i'm a slow rider who stays at the back of the pack, doesnt pass anyone and rides at 70km the whole way as per my licence restrictions...