Speed Camera?

[MacD]

Been flashed twice fron the front about 3 months ago and seen nothing yet.

It would be interesting trying to mount a front plate on the Blackbird.
Only place you could mount it is forward on the guard such that it protruded beyond the front of the front guard and wheel or on the nosecone covering the ram air inlets.

I can't find the link now but I was looking at a site a while ago which was the preliminary report to Victoria Roads regarding front motorcycle plates.

They were trialling reflective stickers across the front of the fairing/blade for faired bikes and vertical ones on the fork legs for naked bikes. I doubt if you're going to see rigid metal plates on the front of bikes again.

The whole issue arose due to bad publicity like this.

Cause ---> Effect.

[Hitcher]

Maybe we could have a design competition...

[Lou Girardin]

I can't find the link now but I was looking at a site a while ago which was the preliminary report to Victoria Roads regarding front motorcycle plates.

They were trialling reflective stickers across the front of the fairing/blade for faired bikes and vertical ones on the fork legs for naked bikes. I doubt if you're going to see rigid metal plates on the front of bikes again.

The whole issue arose due to bad publicity like this.

Cause ---> Effect.

No one is talking about these plates causing instability and we also haven't heard from manufacturers about the issue either.
The lawsuits would be interesting in the event of a death wobble.

[Ixion]

Actually, instability was/is one of the big problems the wankers are running into in Victoria, and a major reason why they haven't done anything yet.

None of the major manufacturers are willing to endorse having any sort of rigid plate stuck on the front, and in the absence of such endorsement they're too scared to go ahead. The "wrap round the fork leg" doesn't work very well (read "at all") cos of caliper mountings and such like. And when wrapped it's pretty well unreadable anyway.

Basically they're claiming that on any bike they can find SOMEWHERE they could put it, but it's DIFFERENT on every model. And being the burearcrats they are, they figure they have to specifiy a mounting location in the legislation. Which is hard, cos they'd have to list every model of every bike made, ever!. Not to mention how they deal with after production changes (add a fairing, remove a fairing, all quite legal) . And the problem of illumination came up too. Odd actually, you are required to have a rear number plate light on a car, but not a front one Anyone want to try putting a little light on a fork leg?

[MacD]

None of the major manufacturers are willing to endorse having any sort of rigid plate stuck on the front, and in the absence of such endorsement they're too scared to go ahead. The "wrap round the fork leg" doesn't work very well (read "at all") cos of caliper mountings and such like. And when wrapped it's pretty well unreadable anyway.

The report I saw admitted all of these issues at least. They had also tried a flexible rubber/plastic plate system. Fork leg stickers aren't going to work on USD forks either. So hopefully it will get put in the too hard basket.

However the best defence is not to give the police/politicians photographic ammunition against bikers in the first place.

Of course they could just use rear-facing camera systems like in the UK. The big orange things on poles with markings on the road that are designed to slow people down, not just give them tickets.

[Korea]

The BEST speed camera shot would have to be the one of two people in the front wearing BEAR SUITS. The licence plate had been obscured with a card that read "Big Ted"
True.

[ScumKiller2]

I agree with every one who's said STOP BEING A DICKHEAD - slow down for cameras (FFS - they aint hard to spot) and if you do get snapped don't flip the bird, pull a wheelie or anything else. If we act like boy racers, we will be treated like boy racers.


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[spudchucka]

If they set the vans up with front as well as rear mounted cameras then that would negate the need for front mounted number plates.

I'm off to give Robbie a call.

[Toast]

If they set the vans up with front as well as rear mounted cameras then that would negate the need for front mounted number plates.

I'm off to give Robbie a call.

That's still a far better solution than front plates, so just make sure the knob doesn't go that route.

Cheers Spud

[thehollowmen]

630 dollars, DAM thats a lot of donuts...........

Or half a tank of gas for the V8 Holdens

[N4CR]

I agree with every one who's said STOP BEING A DICKHEAD - slow down for cameras (FFS - they aint hard to spot) and if you do get snapped don't flip the bird, pull a wheelie or anything else. If we act like boy racers, we will be treated like boy racers.

Yeah that's true... I have only done it once to a radar and the fixed ones never go off for me.

/Stops. I don't want a front plate or some scheme to do it. A stick on plate wont work on a late model zx12r... there ain't enough surface area that is straight or else it will have to be 7cm long and 3cm high or so LOL good luck reading that in a slightly blurred photo.

[JohnR]

I can't find the link now but I was looking at a site a while ago which was the preliminary report to Victoria Roads regarding front motorcycle plates.

They were trialling reflective stickers across the front of the fairing/blade for faired bikes and vertical ones on the fork legs for naked bikes. I doubt if you're going to see rigid metal plates on the front of bikes again.

The whole issue arose due to bad publicity like this.

Cause ---> Effect.

Bloody RAC (in NZ read AA). Another "Motorist" organisation who are seemingly anti motorcycle . However these groups have definate influence on public and bureaucratic thinking on issues related to "motoring" and seem, imho, to be using us (bikers) to maintain that profile.

[Lou Girardin]

If they set the vans up with front as well as rear mounted cameras then that would negate the need for front mounted number plates.

I'm off to give Robbie a call.

Good idea Spud, except the Gummint will say it'll cost X to fit front facing cameras, as against making the suckers pay for their own front plates.
What shall we do? Decisions, decisions.

[Speedracer]

Good idea Spud, except the Gummint will say it'll cost X to fit front facing cameras, as against making the suckers pay for their own front plates.
What shall we do? Decisions, decisions.

You claim that the cameras will pay themselves off. It's probably true.

[Unit:Me]

i have no idea on this, but curious myself.
if the cam is facing you, then the operator has to read your plate as you pass.. possible, but don't know if they do, or quick enough. It's hard to read when the plate is facing the floor cos of a wheelie

Half these guys are asleep anyway and cant imagine them during a concerntrated period of time being about to react quick enough to manually read the plate flying by. Interested to know if they have equipment and proceedure to deal with this valid point