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[jrandom]

Laser jammers are still legal, radar jammers are a big no-no (I think because they are radar transmitters and you need a license for that).

Mmmm hmmm. Apart from the defined 'open slather' regions of the electromagnetic spectrum (microwave, etc, in the 1-2GHz range or thereabouts, the CB band, and I forget what else) and stuff that falls right outside the guidelines, you generally get in Big Trouble (tm) in most parts of the Civilised World (tm) for emitting EM radiation over a certain power level without a license from a controlling body (ie, the FCC in the US, etc). That's what all the spectrum slice auction madness is about every so often when a new application arrives using new bandwidth and the gummint jumps on it to make more money.

Chappie with a PhD in radio physics works not too far away from me here so I should really have a watercooler conversation sometime about it I suppose. I'm really not sure what the technical guff is on ranging radars but presumably if you had a license to operate one you'd effectively have a license to operate a jammer although the power output required would probably be significantly different between usable ranging/location radar and jamming applications, so that might affect it.

AFAIK nobody anywhere has been silly enough to try regulating radiation in the visible wavelengths under these type of laws, so if you want to outlaw laser jammers you can't get 'em under the good old EM spectrum reg stuff, you have to outlaw 'jammers' specifically and then people will try and get out of it by claiming it's a flashlight or something. Difficult.

[Wenier]

hey guys i think you'll find that laser jammers are illegal and are $900 for 2 thats one on the front of ur bike and one at the back it also comes with a switch to turn it off when u have slowed down to the speed limit.

as i understand the holden company offers jammers to hsv owners as part of the car for a bit extra cash.

If u want more info on them check out this page, it is a NZ company who will sell them but doesnt condone the use of them

http://www.radardirect.co.nz/index2.html

[Big Dog]

You could try a little restraint
Ps never been ticketed on a bike.
I have been pulled a few times but then my 'jammer goes' into action with its patented turbo powered mouth. Granted in the last two years I don't ride as fast as JR etc, but I've always been very selective about where I speed, how much I look like a squid & have a novel grovel rehearsed. eg "a prick back there in the white commodore ran me off the road" and just hope there is a white commodore coming.

[Lou Girardin]

I use an older unit, a Masterblaster. I've tested it on a Stalker and it works fine. Unlike large cars, bikes don't need the coverage of twin units. I don't use a rear unit because cops seldom seem to shoot from behind. (Don't know about their personal lives though).
I've been zapped so many times, that if they were illegal, some pissed off cop would have done me by now.
Lou

[MD]

Celtic- just checking. Were you heading sth on the M/way past Ngauranga Gorge from Petone or was the prick somewhere else? (its my daily commute aswell, need to know) MatthewT- see you have a Brutale now. Sorry to see your F4 in a sad state out the back of Motormart last week. Good you are back on ya bike
Mark D

[wkid_one]

Again - they are technically illegal as they 'interfere with Vehicle Surveillance Equipment' which is a breach of the LT Act. Catching you using one is a different story.

[DEATH_INC.]

Just out of interest,one of the boys onthe ZX12 site did a bit of a test and discovered that on the 12 at least,the only bit that gave a reading was when the laser was pointed at the headlight.....he worked in some sort of scientific research place and they were working on some sort of uni-directional covering for it,but I'm not sure how they went....

[riffer]

Celtic- just checking. Were you heading sth on the M/way past Ngauranga Gorge from Petone or was the prick somewhere else? (its my daily commute aswell, need to know) MatthewT- see you have a Brutale now. Sorry to see your F4 in a sad state out the back of Motormart last week. Good you are back on ya bike
Mark D

I was heading south at 9.40 this morning past Ngauranga Gorge where the flyover comes in - I was coming from the Hutt Valley - cop was on the side of the road (left) in the push bikes lane.

I guess I should be thankful though as when he clocked me I was technically "sharing" the lane with another car as I came down the road from the small crest.

[Deano]

They have always taken great delight in showing me the bloody reading - F**k em all.

If they are able to produce quantitative evidence, then they should, your honour.

[Jackrat]

Jammers are not illegal but their use is,Work that out.
The use of anything that interfears with the operation of police speed detection equipment is illegal.With the NZ Gov'ts close following of South OZ
trends it is probably only a matter of time before both detectors and jammers are made illegal,and then you will have blown your money,It depends on how much real time use you get out of them before it happens I suppose.

[Big Dog]

How cool would it be if they had to print out your ticket direct from the gun. There would be no question then, on the other hand there would be no leniency either.

[dangerous]

I've done a bit of serching on this one and if I had a spare $900 then I'd sertenly have a 'Blinder' laser jamer.

I think that you will find that they do not send a signal of any kind, what they do is obsorb the laser signal instead of returning it to the gun, with your speed. As far as I know they are not illegal or you would not be able to sell them.

I use a Passport radar detecter which also picks up laser, but you must remember that once you have detected the threat you are allready busted.
Over xmas I detected 4 strikes but was not speeding (much) so the chance of being done is high.

I watched these money grabing bastards outside work the other day, operating a laser gun and would you believe there were 8 cops and 5 cars involved, thats a shit load of my taxes being spent on wages that would be better off in the health, schools or even reagular cops wages.

There will soon be a new product out caled 'Viel' it is a clear lacure that you paint on to your number plate and lights. This also obsorbs the Lidear laser light rather than reflect it back to were it came. you can see this product at Radar Direct's web site.

[Big Dog]

Lets play total the speeding fines $180 (3x 60-in a-50 speed camera in a tin top) anyone on this thread lower. Me thinks the $900 is better spent on petrol/gear, in my case any way.

It's kind of funny coz I speed more on the bike but get busted less.

[Lou Girardin]

Again - they are technically illegal as they 'interfere with Vehicle Surveillance Equipment' which is a breach of the LT Act. Catching you using one is a different story.

That may or may not be so. But I've never known a cop not to use the law to nail 'smart arses' if they can. Something is stopping them.
Lou

[dangerous]

Lets play total the speeding fines $180 (3x 60-in a-50 speed camera in a tin top) anyone on this thread lower. Me thinks the $900 is better spent on petrol/gear, in my case any way.

For me its not only about fines but drive buy points (demerits) as I often drive trucks I need my licence so $1200 on a detecter was worth it and I recon in the year I've had it its saved me that much.

This time last year I was walking (well ment to be) for three months due to demerits adding up. I have not had a ticket since then. In the first 2 months of last year I was nicked 3 times and 2 times earler the year before.

Now I'm not a nut case or any thing cos they were all in a 100k zone and for no more than 11-17 km over apart from 1 towing the boat at 102kph (laser gun @ 10pm)