Responsibility

[yungatart]

When it comes to the school kids, schools often state that ONLY school uniform and approved school jackets are to be worn- that's right - NO PROTECTIVE gear other than a helmet- when hXc starts riding to school I will insist that no matter what the school rules state he will be wearing proper bike gear- end of story!

[Brett]

Sounds like evolution in process to me...

[Zapf]

My first bin was on a Suzuki 50 stepthrough at age 15. On a shingle road around Lake Brunner on The West Coast. I was wearing shorts and tee-shirt when I hit some thick stuff on the edge of a corner. Only doing about 30kph, but spent the next week picking bits out of my legs and arms. I still have a small piece of shingle in my left elbow.

similar in summer weight long sleeve shirt and trouser... but all the same. Next time I am on a scooter I'll add knee and elbow guards + gloves to the mix... maybe even a back protector..

[Huntaway]

Thanks Oldrider, Zed and Avgas. Sadly, you are all right. I've been looking closer at other riders since and noted more with inadequate protection. I thought "Idiots" but it didn't rile me the same. I realise now, in the first instance, I reacted to a percieved OSH/exploitation issue, which, as it turned out, wasn't the case at all. Still, when these people do stuff up, I'm not sure how compassionate (ACC levies) the rest of us should be.

Iwilde is right on the nail though. There are many "non-bikers" out there on two wheels who have little idea of the risks, and safety authorities appear to be doing little to target them. Motorcycle manufacturers too seem to have a selective conscience depending on the market they are targeting. Saw an ad' for scooters recently featuring models in summer beach wear...

Just have to keep niggling I suppose to get everyone aware.

[Zed]

Thanks Oldrider, Zed and Avgas. Sadly, you are all right. I've been looking closer at other riders since and noted more with inadequate protection.

Iwilde is right on the nail though. There are many "non-bikers" out there on two wheels who have little idea of the risks, and safety authorities appear to be doing little to target them. Motorcycle manufacturers too seem to have a selective conscience depending on the market they are targeting. Saw an ad' for scooters recently featuring models in summer beach wear...

You're welcome, the lack of protection is a huge problem/danger nationwide. I believe it is the responsability of the individual rider (true rider or not) to learn about the do's & don'ts of motorcycling, but some take longer than others to learn valuable lessons such as suitable protective wear on bikes.

[White trash]

And it's my personal belief that people should be able to choose exactly what the hell they WANT to wear on a bike for themselves.

Major study in Australia found recently that all fatalities in automobile accidents could be cut by a third by enforcing the use of full face helmets for all occupants of cars. Guess we better start stopping every cage driver we see not wearing one and chastise them.....

[Zed]

And it's my personal belief that people should be able to choose exactly what the hell they WANT to wear on a bike for themselves.

I'm not an advocate for compulsory *full protection* either...and if you insist on wearing sandshoes, draggin's, and a pink fishnet camisole when stunting - that's up to you Trashman!

[Motu]

I think we should all band together and sue TRANSIT for making roads out of material that can damage bodies so severly - there are NO warning signs saying this can happen! This is a gross oversight on their part and I think they should be taken to task over it.How many motorcyclists have been killed and had severe injuries caused solely by the unforgiving nature of New Zealands roading surface? The sooner they rectify this ''killer'' roading surface the better for all of us - we pay tax for roads,and of course they make the roads for cars and trucks - absolutly NO consideration for motorcycles...we need to do something NOW!!!


Bring back the dirt road!!!!

[Ixion]

I like mud. It's nice and soft to fall off onto.

[Swoop]

And it's my personal belief that people should be able to choose exactly what the hell they WANT to wear on a bike for themselves.

Major study in Australia found recently that all fatalities in automobile accidents could be cut by a third by enforcing the use of full face helmets for all occupants of cars. Guess we better start stopping every cage driver we see not wearing one and chastise them.....

Have you ever done that???
Wear your helmet in the cage - the looks you get are PRICELESS!!!
Great entertainment for the whole family...


And the link to the website earlier in this tread... cheers. Simple and no explanations really needed on those photos...

[DemonWolf]

haha Swoop.. I must try that.. Think next time the missus tell's me that I can't take the bike because its a "family" outing.. I'll "have" to wear the helmet in the car... Must get a buzz outta it.. will definately 'damper' the yelling she'll be giving me.. hahaha classic

[mstriumph]

......................... I believe it is the responsability of the individual rider (true rider or not) to learn about the do's & don'ts of motorcycling, .......................

always providing that they are YOUR personally-approved 'do's and don'ts', eh zed??

........ i mean, you don't mean the 'do's and don'ts' of people who may have an opinion that differs from yours, eh?

[Zed]

always providing that they are YOUR personally-approved 'do's and don'ts', eh zed??

........ i mean, you don't mean the 'do's and don'ts' of people who may have an opinion that differs from yours, eh?

Not at all... be *responsible* (title of thread remember) and learn the do's and don'ts for yourself, they consist of both the written and unwritten rules of the road and motorcycling. Sorry if you don't know what I'm talking about. :spudguita

[riffer]

Not neaaarrrly as bad as the new kid at my school. I saw him riding his RG with a cotton T-shirt, short-shorts and jandals. He did have a flash helmet but it couldn't of been protecting anything important like a brain

Gave him a good earful the other day coming home from work.

He just looked at me like I was a stupid old bastard.

Exactly what I would have done at his age.

I learnt. The Hard Way. Just like he will.

Nice looking RG though...

[mstriumph]

Not at all... be *responsible* (title of thread remember) and learn the do's and don'ts for yourself, they consist of both the written and unwritten rules of the road and motorcycling. Sorry if you don't know what I'm talking about. :spudguita

no, no, my friend -- absolutely no need for you to apologise for being a poor communicator .... it will come with practice, the main thing is to just keep trying

sooooo - to clarify [and drawing on your previous posts] ....

......from your point of view .....its perfectly *responsible* for bikers to disregard the WRITTEN rules of the road [such as no speeding or stunts on public roads f'rinstance........] but totally *irresponsible* for them to not wear leathers or the like when riding?



please note the rest of you - i have no problem with stunts, speeding,
sneezing or anything else brought to you by the letter 's'
- am just trying to clarify Zed's initial post is all ........ thanks