KB - The greatest-ever motorcycles

[HenryDorsetCase]

mmm VF interceptor, interceptor was the american market branding & it was a 700 because of their import tarriffs. the VF750F released along side the VF 750 sabre both identical motors & hondas biggest lemon! ( camshaft failures/factory recalls/ double punched stamp on cylinder casings for factory mods) it was the VFR750 ( gear driven cams) that set the standard of the honda V4 on track then came the RC30 initial race failures almost everywhere ( funny how a motor will shit it's self with no oil getting to heads ).

first modern superbike? Honda's first show of that was the CB1100RB (an endurance racer with lights)

bzzzzzzzt wrong, but thanks for playing.

the 750 Magna motor is very similar but is not the same as the 750 Interceptor. Magna had been out for a couple of years before the interceptor, and it was the one with the majority of the cam issues. the interceptor motor castings are different, the motor rotates the opposite way, and one is chain driven, one is shaft driven. From memory (and I do have a side by side comparison somewhere) there are other differences (carburation, cams etc) to make the Interceptor more powerful.



The harley protection tariff came in in 1985 (two years after the VF750F was released) forcing the capacity reduction.

I do agree with you that VFR750's are very cool, but I stick to my point that the original "modern superbike" i.e. something that handled, was the VF750F Interceptor.

[HenryDorsetCase]

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It was the VF750F that brought alloy frames and water cooled four cylinder 750's and race bike styling to the market place a

just to nit pick:

the vF750F frame was rectangular steel, painted silver. Didnt turn to aluminium till the VFR750 from memory.

the technology to mass produce the aluminium frames didnt exist then, event the 500CC race bikes were only just coming to grips with it. (then they did weird stuff like turn the engine upside down....)

[gav]

Yeah, true, meant to put box section perimeter... so what was the first bike with an alloy frame? Be something like Suzuki's RG250WD maybe or first GSXR400? Didnt the 250 come out in 1983?

[limbimtimwim]

3. CBR600 - for the same reason as the cub, sold bucketloads and its the bike that in 91 re-introduced the 600 class that now gives us SS racing.

Kawasaki GPZ600R. Introduced 1985. Had everything the Honda did. I would think the CBR600 was a reaction to it, and the first CBR600 was in 1987.

[Pixie]

lol, can you do better mate?

I used the Hossack suspension on an experimental in '82,probably years before Britten had heard of it.
The Britten Myth is largely kiwi hype bullshit,So it won against BEARS when no manufacturer was interested in BEARS.
Get real

[HenryDorsetCase]

more nit picking... sorry I cant help myself.

How is the Hossack/britten suspension different from any early girder fork? Not looking for the answer "its made of carbon fibre, dumbass" either.

didnt they have girder forks it in the '30's?, but they were dropped because of the large number of bushes in them, and high loads caused premature wear and slop, so that modern materials and manufacturing techniques enabled the technology to be refined?

Confederate Wraith has bitchin' girder fork. Oh yes

[ducatilover]

Kawasaki GPZ600R. Introduced 1985. Had everything the Honda did. I would think the CBR600 was a reaction to it, and the first CBR600 was in 1987.

my kawasaki gpz400 has an all alloy frame and anti dive front forks...... and its still a peice of shit

[ducatilover]

well eat my wees and call me an elipican. indian made an 8 valve v-twin race bike in 1912 and scott motorcycles had water cooling in 1908..... well it makes me and my bros 650 obsolete....who was the first to use twin spark?

[carver]

1 honda ct110 (basic, still selling and rugged)
2 85 suzuki GSXR 750 (first real sports bike)
3 Yamaha DT 175/XT 500/600 (long running, revoloutionary trailies)
4 suzuki bandit 1200 (not much changed, still sells well)
5 BMW 650 GS (good andventure sledge)
6 Kawasaki ZX636 (just damned cool)
7 Yamaha RD 250/ 350 (and the TZR and TDM) (insanity plus)
8 honda helix (revoloutionary)
9 ducati 916 (still the best duke ever)
10 the bomerland (i think...)

here ya go

[Skyryder]

AMEN!!

Plain and simple, kiwi made and a fucken wicked performing beast, such a shame the dream had to end so soon otherwise id say the world champ standings might be a bit different, see those power wheelies next to the leader, i want to watch those whole races again, anyone know where i can get dvd ?

I got a copy on tape some where.

PM me for details.

[Skyryder]

This for vintage

http://www.vintagebike.co.uk/Bike%20...agonfly-57.htm

and this for now

http://www.mvagustausa.com/web-mvagusta/F4-1000S.html


Skyryder

[WINJA]

the britten woud piss all over it, the bsl couldn't even beat the local production superbikes

+1 ,smelly 2 stroke back markers

[Arronduke]

RG500 & RD350LC
No question these changed motorcycle history

[98tls]

for me it would be the original XL250 motorsport,the honda 500/4,early bevel drive 900 ss duke.manx norton.

[gammaguy]

The 1983 Suzuki RG250 WD.
because at last the brakes WORKED,the thing HANDLED,the engine was FAST and it was a movement away from "bigger is better"to "light is right".
It started a trend that continues today.
I owned one for 6 hours but thats another story...........