Aussie Speedster

**MikeL** · 1st March 2004, 19:54

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

A dangerous charge must show actual danger to others. That makes it easier to prove in an urban situation than, say, an empty back-country road.
Lou

So exactly what does it take to prove dangerous driving when high speed alone and no obviously dangerous manoeuvre is involved?
Is 160 kph on a back-country road not "dangerous" if there are no other vehicles in sight? Does it become dangerous if only one other vehicle is on the road? How close does the other vehicle have to be?

**Lou Girardin** · 1st March 2004, 20:28

They'll take into account driveways, side roads, traffic density, (potential for other traffic to appear). One vehicle is enough if there is the possiblity of an accident due to your actions.
That's why a brief is invaluable if you can afford one, judges will listen to his argument rather than yours.
Lou

**speedpro** · 1st March 2004, 20:31

To be dangerous I think you have to be a danger to "yourself" or others. So even with noone around you could still be judged to be endangering "yourself" and therefore dangerous, like I was.
Also my brother in law was caught doing 140k at the end of the NW motorway with noone else around about 20 years ago. The cop wrote the ticket for excessive speed and it went to court. At the end the judge tore a strip off the cop for not writing it up as dangerous. Do you think that sort of attitude has changed??

**Coldkiwi** · 2nd March 2004, 11:49

Originally Posted by speedpro

To be dangerous I think you have to be a danger to "yourself" or others. So even with noone around you could still be judged to be endangering "yourself" and therefore dangerous, like I was.
Also my brother in law was caught doing 140k at the end of the NW motorway with noone else around about 20 years ago. The cop wrote the ticket for excessive speed and it went to court. At the end the judge tore a strip off the cop for not writing it up as dangerous. Do you think that sort of attitude has changed??

why did your brother in law take it to court?? thats asking for trouble isn't it if he got done fair and square. do the crime, do the time for sure... but don't go looking for more time!
I wouldn't be surprised if the same judge is still adjudicating with the same attitude today