Bike vs Car cornering speeds?

[WINJA]

Couple of short points...

1. Holy caps lock, batman (Re: WINJA's posts)!

2. Just for clarification, the F1 engine has been (for the last several years) a 3.0 litre normally aspirated V10 which revs (depending on builder) out to around 19,000 rpm. For next season, the regulations have been altered to have a 2.4 litre normally aspirated V8 engine, primarily to reduce the speeds the cars have been getting to over the last couple of seasons. They also say that this will reduce the massive costs involved in F1, but that remains to be seen as builders will pour just as much money into any new engine.

Disclaimer: Just putting the right information out there, to help the knowledge levels of those professing to know but haven't Google'd it first

IT MAY REDUCE COST CAUSE THET COULD JUST SLEEVE DOWN A 302WINDSOR OR 3500 ROVER ENGINES AND PUT THOSE IN AN F1 CAR , AND TO CUT SPENDING RIGHT BACK THEY COULD USE A 9 INCH DIFF. FUCKEN IDIOTS THOSE CARS ARE MEANT TO BE FAST

[texmo]

That's nice.

I haven't driven a WRX so can't really comment on whose cage is better than the other or debate between different brands of rice burners. What I would say is that my GTST is better than 95% of cars on the road in the handling stakes, and that's stock.

The point of the the thread was, how does this compare to bikes.

I drove my brother GTS-t has to be the worsthandling car ever driven in my life if I got to accellerate it would just spin the wheels anything under 80 or so km/hr then when your going around mangwhai at like 130 and give it some it start to slide again, to unpredictable...

[Motu]

IT MAY REDUCE COST CAUSE THET COULD JUST SLEEVE DOWN A 302WINDSOR OR 3500 ROVER ENGINES AND PUT THOSE IN AN F1 CAR , AND TO CUT SPENDING RIGHT BACK THEY COULD USE A 9 INCH DIFF. FUCKEN IDIOTS THOSE CARS ARE MEANT TO BE FAST

They did that already,Phill Irving and Repco made the Reprco V8 out of the Rover block and Jack Brabham won his 3rd WDC with it.

[loosebruce]

Nah,you better wise up - if you ever come across a fast car with a very good driver you will never see them.It's just most of the people we come across who can afford to drive a fast car are real old farts who couldn't give a toss about going fast.How many Lambo's have you seen in Auckland city?.....heaps eh?...how many Lambo's have you seen on SH22?...SFA.Hang your ego up with the toothpaste leathers,a car will cream a bike,ask Schumacher which is fastest,or Rossi....both have ridden and driven both.

Quite why i should wise up i'm unsure, i'm sure my post read that i was saying a cars with a good driver will cream a bike and that it's the fact that most people with the fast car can't drive it for peanuts. I was more reffering to the fact that the bikers who think cars are slow etc should wise up, maybe you should read shit a bit more carefully.

[Motu]

Sorry,I didn't understand your first post at all....perhaps you didn't express yourself clearly enough...wise up on your writting skills next time then....

[loosebruce]

Sorry,I didn't understand your first post at all....perhaps you didn't express yourself clearly enough...wise up on your writting skills next time then....

Yea fair enough, i get alot of that, it was the dropped at brith thing that fucked me, you'll have to live with my shit speeling thou.

[VasalineWarrior]

Hey guys, its just fortuanate for us that most car drivers suck. My two cents

[Mooch]

ok, that was a little bit wrong. You can't race two machines that are 'equal' on power-to-weight ratio, cos first up, that doesn't work, and secondly, the 1.8 supercharged Atom vs a stock CBR600RR just aren't in the same league. JC compared the power output of the Atom to that of a Ferrari. Would you pitch the same CBR600 against a Ferrari?

How about a few bikes verse a car with a gsxr1300 engine in then.
Nurburgring is as close to a closed road you can get , I think this video shows the difference on the corners , about 2/3rds though watch the car deal to the knee down rider.

This video isn't dialup friendly (60 megs)
http://www.mymegabusa.com/Video/Mega...urburgring.wmv

[Pixie]

generally a sports car can beat a bike if the driver is awesome, but the guy on the bike will be having waaaaaaay more fun

Yes,The car driver is dieing very slowly and does not even know it.

[Pixie]

Nah,you better wise up - if you ever come across a fast car with a very good driver you will never see them.It's just most of the people we come across who can afford to drive a fast car are real old farts who couldn't give a toss about going fast.How many Lambo's have you seen in Auckland city?.....heaps eh?...how many Lambo's have you seen on SH22?...SFA.Hang your ego up with the toothpaste leathers,a car will cream a bike,ask Schumacher which is fastest,or Rossi....both have ridden and driven both.

I was passed very impressively by a Murcielago on SH16 a few months ago.I was disappointed when,at the next corner, I had to slow the MX5 down from the 120kmh I would normally take that corner,to the 70kmh the wanker in the Lambo was taking it.

Three months later the same tosser drove the Lambo into a tree on Ponsonby Rd.

P.S.I was dieing slowly,but I knew it.

[Lou Girardin]

How about a few bikes verse a car with a gsxr1300 engine in then.
Nurburgring is as close to a closed road you can get , I think this video shows the difference on the corners , about 2/3rds though watch the car deal to the knee down rider.

This video isn't dialup friendly (60 megs)
http://www.mymegabusa.com/Video/Mega...urburgring.wmv

Yet again, we don't know the two drivers abilities, track knowledge etc.

[bugjuice]

Mooch, that clip doesn't do any justice for either argument. You've got a race prep'd car with a driver who's done the track a couple of times already going flat tack, vs bikes and other cars that are out for a stroll.. There's no race or competition on car vs bike by any means. Court finds this evidence null and void from all records.

Awesome clip tho, and nice bit of driving. Plus, the realism between that and Xbox/PS games too is quite astounding. I knew most of the corners from playing PS2, not that I could do that pace in real life (yet)

[Drunken Monkey]

...
Three months later the same tosser drove the Lambo into a tree on Ponsonby Rd.....

No, it was the tosser's wife. Get your facts straight.

[Mooch]

Mooch, that clip doesn't do any justice for either argument. You've got a race prep'd car with a driver who's done the track a couple of times already going flat tack, vs bikes and other cars that are out for a stroll.. There's no race or competition on car vs bike by any means. Court finds this evidence null and void from all records.

Awesome clip tho, and nice bit of driving. Plus, the realism between that and Xbox/PS games too is quite astounding. I knew most of the corners from playing PS2, not that I could do that pace in real life (yet)

True about the clip in some ways , but you saw the corners where the guy on a bike was dragging his/her knee, that megabussa came up to it real quick. There's a few good clips on a bike. The rider new the ring well and did a coulpe of bike verse car type video's with a GT3 no less.
Unfourtantly the rider was killed on the track after hitting oil from a car that had blown up. (RIP Dude)

Use the link below if your interested. Follow the link to his orginal web site.

http://www.joerundseim.com/

[bugjuice]

that sad he crashed and died. bitter irony may be?

But that car was going flat tack, and taking on everything in his path. He was not slow by any means. But, the bike had his knee down, yeah, but he didn't know the race was on.. Hell, I can get my knee down on the mini moto, don't mean nothing. I've nearly gone up the back of a rider who had his knee down, and I didn't.. Getting your knee down doesn't mean you're going as hard as you can. Just means you're getting yourself off..