Bike vs Car cornering speeds?

[WINJA]

aside from less rubber on the road there is the small matter of the law of physics and on a bike your centre of gravity is higher than in a car (sports) which handicaps you from the start.

of course as many people of said, it is a lot more fun riding fast through twisties than driving ....
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centre of gravity ? the bikes centre of gravity stays central in corners as the bike leans , as for rubber on the road , the bike weighs less , proof for me is my races against cars , and ive never lost or had a decent challenge

[Lou Girardin]

Good point winja, not to mention the fact that sprotbikebike rubber is far stickier than the stickiest car road tyres.

[Matt Bleck]

Theres one more variable I'd like to add.

Dollar for dollar a bike will come out on top every time ie. a new gixxer 1000 is worth about $22k, I can't think of a $22k car that will whip a Gixxer Thou.

[flash]

Theres one more variable I'd like to add.

Dollar for dollar a bike will come out on top every time ie. a new gixxer 1000 is worth about $22k, I can't think of a $22k car that will whip a Gixxer Thou.

a go kart with a 250cc two smoker $7000?
a gsxr 1000cc four stroke $22000
seeing a little go kart out courner a gsxr.....priceless

[Sniper]

a go kart with a 250cc two smoker $7000?
a gsxr 1000cc four stroke $22000
seeing a little go kart out courner a gsxr.....priceless

Thats comparing grapes to apples mate. Get with the program

[N4CR]

a go kart with a 250cc two smoker $7000?
a gsxr 1000cc four stroke $22000
seeing a little go kart out courner a gsxr.....priceless

Yeah go-carts look realllllly road legal as well

But by god do those carts go like stink O_o!

[Lou Girardin]

a go kart with a 250cc two smoker $7000?
a gsxr 1000cc four stroke $22000
seeing a little go kart out courner a gsxr.....priceless

You get your go kart and I'll use the Bandit and we'll have a race up the North Motorway past the Police base.

[scumdog]

You get your go kart and I'll use the Bandit and we'll have a race up the North Motorway past the Police base.

The go-kart is so low it will probably go 'under the radar' leaving you to worry about the ticket potential!

[flash]

i was just showing price vs price isnt the case at all

[ducatilover]

Aside from less rubber on the road there is the small matter of the law of physics and on a bike your centre of gravity is higher than in a car (sports) which handicaps you from the start.

Of course as many people of said, it is a LOT more fun riding fast through twisties than driving ....

yeah but i thought you could shift your C.O.G closer to the inside of the corner, and cant a bike switch directions faster?

[Mooch]

Theres one more variable I'd like to add.

Dollar for dollar a bike will come out on top every time ie. a new gixxer 1000 is worth about $22k, I can't think of a $22k car that will whip a Gixxer Thou.

How about a $7000 89 Supra with 2.5 twin turbo (turned up a tad) sitting on factory billsteins / S02 tyres with an ex mini 7 racer behind the wheel? Jim2 will know who I'm talking about. Has humbled the odd motorcyclist on a twisty road. It's about skill and grip.

BTW, Motorcyclysts shouldn't under estimate the amount of skill required to pedal a cage quickly around corners, much like motorcycling it becomes a real art form at the higher levels with similar consequences if it goes pear shaped. You’ve only got to watch the NZ Targa for that . And think again about bike verse car acceleration as well, pick up NZ performance car mag and look at the number of street cars that do 11s or 10s second 1/4 miles these days much to my suprise. Evo's, WRX's , Skylines etc and these cars are cheap to buy. You could probably build a very quick V3 STI for 22k.
Still, would rather be on a bike.

[Marmoot]

How about a $7000 89 Supra with 2.5 twin turbo (turned up a tad) sitting on factory billsteins / S02 tyres with an ex mini 7 racer behind the wheel?

on personal preferences I'd prefer the 3litre version by far. It gets to 450hp easily without losing the agility. Yes, it's on factory bilstein.

Might not be suitable for scenic drive, but it'd be a good fun for Kopu-Hikuai

[ducatilover]

it takes alot of skill to push a bike or a cage to its limit whilst getting optimum perfomance out of it. although i could out corner alot of cars on my gn250 i was humbled by two people one of them i attempted to follow and me being a useless rider got beaten, it was a mazda eunos 600 i think from memory, i knew the road and my limits and i was giving it all i had but i could only just hold him in the twisties. although it was great fun, more fun then just passing someone and out cornering them with ease [ahem honda bros]. the second was my old man, the best cage driver i know [hes a fucken good biker too] whom i followed over the takas, he was in a 89 mazda familia 1300 4spd manual and we both kicked an integras arse with some useless boyracer behind the wheel, but my oldman left me for dead with two frikn passengers, my gn was faster in a straight line but the speed he was pullin through the corners kinda cancelled that out......sorry im babbling again

[rc_36_rider]

the word fast should never be used in the same sentence ever they dont come close to fast they couldnt pull a sock off my foot ans as a few people have said this is a pointless debate and as a few people have said i have never ever had a car pass me in any situation so if they are faster the people driving them are slow.

[rc_36_rider]

and as far as doller for doller gos you can import a r1 or simila for fuck all if you know the right people and id like to see a 5k car keep up with a litre class bike any where on gravel get a dirt bike .plus theres the reliablity factor i dont know of any turbo cars with more then factory boost that dont cost a shit load to keep on the road caus every thing starts to fuck out every thing engine gear box turbo hosing diff every thing gos down hill fast and then its not cheep any more.