Bike vs Car Fun

**Two Smoker** · 16th April 2004, 18:09

very true..... thats why i love the tight and twisty stuff.....(yes i know a well driven performance car can keep up in the twistys..... but alot of cars cant.....)

hhhhmmmm, yes i like speed, but not all the time, if i get passed by a cage doing insane speeds.......well he can keep doing them, but if he slows me up in the twistys he'll soon know that im quick when i want to be......

**Jackrat** · 16th April 2004, 19:15

One nice thing about fast cars is you can use em' as cop bait.
I quite often follow them at a discrete distance in the knowlage that if there's a cop about he's going to get it an not me.I was down by Napier last year about to pull out when some fast thing went zapping past.I said to the mate I was with that he'd make good bait.We only got a couple of Km down the road an there he was geting booked.

I love it when that happens.

**jrandom** · 16th April 2004, 19:19

Originally Posted by Two Smoker

twistys..... but alot of cars cant.....

Twisties? Cars?

Fear the 911 Turbos.

Also, funnily enough, the MX5s.

**Coldkiwi** · 16th April 2004, 23:34

mx5's??? you serious? no way have they got enouygh power to bother as bike in most twisties (any form of straight should see them in the mirrors...unless you're on an FXR I guess!)

andy... you've obviously done your research and although I haven't had the pleasure of whupping some big wig in his HSV beyond the 100kmhr mark, i think it would only take a few gear changes to have the bike reeling him back in in very short order. And as you say, the highways not a race track (apparently!) so to all intents and purposes, any top speed advantage he has is near useless.

all cars have to their aid on the road is good handling.

**pete376403** · 16th April 2004, 23:40

Originally Posted by Coldkiwi

all cars have to their aid on the road is good handling.

Maybe not even that, but they do have a lot more rubber on the road. And THAT is the key to going around corners fast. You want to try something that will corner so hard your vision blurs? Try a super kart. No suspension, just a super low centre of gravity and four sticky slick tyres.
Bikes main advantage is superior acceleration, which can only be used to maximum effect when mainly upright

**Lou Girardin** · 17th April 2004, 06:54

Originally Posted by Coldkiwi

mx5's??? you serious? no way have they got enouygh power to bother as bike in most twisties (any form of straight should see them in the mirrors...unless you're on an FXR I guess!)
.

An MX on sticky tyres can exceed 1g cornering, that's serious corner speed if the road is twisty enough. I used to stay with bikes quite often until traffic got in the way.
Lou

**DEATH_INC.** · 17th April 2004, 07:06

Originally Posted by jrandom

Twisties? Cars?

Fear the 911 Turbos.

Also, funnily enough, the MX5s.

I can get my Terrano on mudgrips round most corners(well up to 100mph anyway...)as fast as me bikes......

**madandy** · 18th April 2004, 09:45

Yeah LOU is right ;a well set up MX5 is a real weapon in the tight stuff

**marty** · 18th April 2004, 11:11

but an mx5 is a girls car

**Lou Girardin** · 18th April 2004, 14:42

Originally Posted by marty

but an mx5 is a girls car

Yup, I was Louise until I bought the RF.
Lou

**andy1** · 18th April 2004, 18:02

had a race today down the southern motorway against this funny looking hsv with red and blue flashing lights, got off at penrose and blasted home. always a good time racing those guys!
i bet they go nuts when they cant keep up!

**sAsLEX** · 18th April 2004, 18:57

Originally Posted by pete376403

Maybe not even that, but they do have a lot more rubber on the road. And THAT is the key to going around corners fast. You want to try something that will corner so hard your vision blurs? Try a super kart. No suspension, just a super low centre of gravity and four sticky slick tyres.
Bikes main advantage is superior acceleration, which can only be used to maximum effect when mainly upright

Apparently these little karts have the lap records at most kiwi tracks!

**wkid_one** · 18th April 2004, 21:45

Yup Kiwi Karts apparently held the record at Manfield for a while. A combination of having a wickedly low COG, wide foot print and having a hell P2W ratio - along with being small enuf to use shit loads of track on the corners and straighten them out.

They go like snot - they also over-represent the speed when you are in them as you are sooo close to the ground.

Only problem I found is that given you are so close to the ground, it makes it hard to see around a corner and pick your apex until you manage to sort your reference points out.