Non Jap Bikes - pros and cons

**WINJA** · 15th December 2005, 08:57

it all depends on what your into , that 955 might only make 110 hp or whatever but it makes it differently to a jap 4 , its a nice bike nice to ride and has a beuatiful sound , it might not have usd forks or radial mount brakes but a lot of that stuff is not neccesary for everyday riding , 95% of us cant use a 955 trumpy to its limit but you wanna see someone who can ,and fuck it sounded great thundering thru scenic drive getting sideways , they tend to hold their value better than a japper as well

**Finn** · 15th December 2005, 08:59

Matty that's fighting talk.

There's so much more to biking than technology alone. So when you're laying in your hospital bed in traction wondering why, with all this technology, did I arse it doing a wheelie down Nelson St, spare a thought for the chap riding his Triumph with a smile on his face, quite content with his non USD forks and 4 pot calipers.

If biking were about technology, imagine what I would think of your bike if I pulled up beside you.

**Devil** · 15th December 2005, 09:07

Matty. I've just moved your bike, its on its side. It was looking at my Triumph funny.

4 pot brakes? we're talking about a bike (using the daytona 600, 650, speed four as an example) that is 165-170kg dry. Stopping is not a problem I assure you!

**Mattyc** · 15th December 2005, 09:08

Originally Posted by TLDV8

Name one ?........near all japanese sport bikes have 4 piston radial's including the 200 HP ZZR1400.

lol a 97 zx9 has 6 pots , 2003 gixxer 1k has 6 pots - thats two buddeeeeeeee

Devil - i was referring to the brand new fully faired yellow Triumph i saw this morn, a 900 id say. for the way the bike looked (very aggressive) i was gutted to see tiny forks and the same brakes as your 600..

The ZX9 is used to being on its side, well ..... leaned over hard anyhoo

lol this is a real can of worms. good stuff, should make my day go faster

**Eurodave** · 15th December 2005, 09:08

Originally Posted by TLDV8

200 HP ZZR1400.

Who needs 200 hp in a ROAD bike? Not me thats for sure. I value my licence & the freedom it imbues way too much!! I dont subscribe to the "Mines bigger, better ,faster ,got more HP than yours" school of thought ,and anyway,I get tons of smiles per mile riding my collection of dinosaurs.

**Devil** · 15th December 2005, 09:12

Originally Posted by WINJA

it all depends on what your into , that 955 might only make 110 hp or whatever but it makes it differently to a jap 4 , its a nice bike nice to ride and has a beuatiful sound , it might not have usd forks or radial mount brakes but a lot of that stuff is not neccesary for everyday riding , 95% of us cant use a 955 trumpy to its limit but you wanna see someone who can ,and fuck it sounded great thundering thru scenic drive getting sideways , they tend to hold their value better than a japper as well

Maaayte. A post I can read! (Careful, you sound almost sensible in lower case!).

As above, most Triumphs dont fit in the super-sport category, they sit back a bit, and they do what they do very well. Speed with comfort, power with control.

**Devil** · 15th December 2005, 09:14

Originally Posted by Mattyc

Devil - i was referring to the brand new fully faired yellow Triumph i saw this morn, a 900 id say. for the way the bike looked (very aggressive) i was gutted to see tiny forks and the same brakes as your 600..

Are you sure it was a 900? Not a daytona 650? Which still looks new...

When it comes to the 955i Daytona, its totally due for an upgrade however.

**Mattyc** · 15th December 2005, 09:15

Originally Posted by Finn

Matty that's fighting talk.

If biking were about technology, imagine what I would think of your bike if I pulled up beside you.

But this thread is not about my bike,

Devil - was Brand spanker , was a really nice looker, really nice, will have a look on google and see if i can find it

**Devil** · 15th December 2005, 09:16

Originally Posted by Mattyc

But this thread is not about my bike, its about over priced and under developed english machinery

Ridden one?

**TLDV8** · 15th December 2005, 09:17

Originally Posted by Mattyc

lol a 97 zx9 has 6 pots , 2003 gixxer 1k has 6 pots - thats two buddeeeeeeee

A 1997 ZX9 is not modern.The 2001/2002 GSXR1000 was the last year for 6 piston calipers...03/04/05/06 have 4 piston radials......no modern sportbike has 6 pistons including Euro bikes,i seem to remember Triumph being the only one to have used a 6 piston caliper and then dropped them going back to 4 pistons,the point being they are old news,more wasn't better.A lot of the advances now are in the radial master cylinders.
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People get caught up in all the hype..take a ride on a 25 +year old Euro bike with twin piston Brembo's on cast iron discs.They will compete with modern braking,you just have to apply more pressure.Go to a 5/8 MC and they are even better.I'm sure a few here are familiar with single piston brake calipers on stainless steel discs from years gone by.