View Poll Results: Would you buy a non jap bike with old technology

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  • Hell yeah, cause they look cool

    27 45.00%
  • Hell no, its got to be with the times

    9 15.00%
  • Jap bikes rule

    16 26.67%
  • Id rather own a hyosung

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Thread: Non Jap Bikes - pros and cons

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodave
    Real road riders dont need over 100 horsepower to have fun!!
    Absolutely mate! real riders don't need to play the numbers game
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Girardin
    If the guy on the 'old' tech Triple knows what he's doing, he'll be exiting a tight corner before you can get that 'modern' ZX9 to consider turning.
    Technology is mainly for wanking rights.
    Fuck off it is, you cant sit there and tell me I will do the same lap times on a 1990 gsxr as i will on a 2005 gsxr...technology is there to make going fast easy and comfortable, an old 2 stroke tripple may have simmilar power to some modern bikes and even with a good rider may beat some modern bikes, but the guy riding will be sweating like a rapist at the end.. and the guy with his "wanky" modern techo bike wouldnt have even broken a sweat...but thats just my opinion coz I own a wanky techy japo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyc
    a passing fad huh, a long fad...... 6 pots seem to be more the standard on late model bikes now, rather than 4 pots
    Errr NOT - 4 pot radial mounted calipers are the current fad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    Errr NOT - 4 pot radial mounted calipers are the current fad.

    Jim that was out of context - i was referring to the forks
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    modern jappas are amazing machines as are the european bikes but their all sanitised narrow niche designs. the UJM bike isn't an easily spotted thing these days.
    go back 25-30yrs bikes were jack of all trades & the big italians had an enigma to them, the big sods came alive when they were used properly & thats whats holds to the current european bikes.
    i remember taking my missus to hanmer on my laverda & striking problems at red post corner, got to hanmer checked it over, road back to CHCH two-up at mostly 120kmh. took it into the shop on the monday found it had destroyed its rings completely! yet it still ran & had got us home, I'd love to see a modern jappa do that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by **R1**
    Fuck off it is, you cant sit there and tell me I will do the same lap times on a 1990 gsxr as i will on a 2005 gsxr..
    Actually I didn't. Like to read my post again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tracyprier
    Absolutely mate! real riders don't need to play the numbers game
    real riders ride rather than talking about it, and tell me wots wrong with a 1000cc bike? I ride it on the road and play on it at the track, should i have got a 150cc??? some how i think my thou would last longer...and dont we all enjoy differnt aspects of riding? power, torque, handling, touring, racing, stunting, commuting, or just coz we like to look at them....just my opinion, if i had to ride a lil wee bike i wouldnt bother...I know first hand i have more fun on my 1000 than i do on my 250

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Girardin
    Actually I didn't. Like to read my post again?
    you recon new school stuff is for wanking rights, i disagree, what would you like me to read again??

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    Quote Originally Posted by **R1**
    real riders ride rather than talking about it, and tell me wots wrong with a 1000cc bike? I ride it on the road and play on it at the track, should i have got a 150cc??? some how i think my thou would last longer...and dont we all enjoy differnt aspects of riding? power, torque, handling, touring, racing, stunting, commuting, or just coz we like to look at them....just my opinion, if i had to ride a lil wee bike i wouldnt bother...I know first hand i have more fun on my 1000 than i do on my 250

    Actually, the point Tracyprier & I were trying to make is that you dont NEED 100+ horsepower [we werent refering to cc ratings]to have fun on a road bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodave
    Actually, the point Tracyprier & I were trying to make is that you dont NEED 100+ horsepower [we werent refering to cc ratings]to have fun on a road bike
    ok then just for you i will rephrase it, I have more fun on my modern 150hp bike than i do on my old 50hp bike, the point i was tring to make is we are all differnt and if what your saying was true "real riders" like V rossi etc would win on old shitters??

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    Once I decided to buy a ride bike I initially had no preconceptions of make or model – I wanted something that I would hold onto and would take me places (long rides) Coming back to riding and with not much experience in road bikes I tried a number of sport and touring bikes. After a few weeks I knew wanted something that was more comfortable than a sport bike and easy to ride - not too scary.

    Once I started on the Triumph range there was no turning back – the ST (speed triple) is tolerant of my limited ability and it always feels controllable especially though the bends. It has a good look (IMHO) and has good reviews. It is not as “snappy” as some jap bikes but the smooth power through the range is an awesome feeling. The motor is “noisy” at idle in comparison to the jap bikes, but the pipe tune is yummy. The front suspension is a bit crap at low speed under brakes but smooth at speed. The back brakes are a bit gutless but ok.

    In the final analysis however the ST is for me – something I can enjoy riding and be proud of. One thing I have noticed being a new Triumph owner is I get a lot more recognition on the streets and I have now also been a lot more exposed to numerous polarised views on this topic. I think that it is a debate will never be resolved as there are so many personal considerations when picking a bike.
    * What do I think of Jap bikes? They are cool too.
    * Will I ever own a jap road bike? Probably not - but always when it comes to the dirt.
    * What do I think of people who start a sentence with "real riders..."? Here comes some trivel
    * Do I always answer my own questions?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooch
    I think a couple of older technology Triumphs did well at IOM last year, the riders must have been so embarrassed.
    The TT is a good leveller, super fast twitchy bikes are difficult to ride on bumpy basically country roads. The Triumphs seemed to have quite soft suspension and coped well, along with a rider with huge gonads it worked out well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by **R1**
    Fuck off it is, you cant sit there and tell me I will do the same lap times on a 1990 gsxr as i will on a 2005 gsxr...technology is there to make going fast easy and comfortable, an old 2 stroke tripple may have simmilar power to some modern bikes and even with a good rider may beat some modern bikes, but the guy riding will be sweating like a rapist at the end.. and the guy with his "wanky" modern techo bike wouldnt have even broken a sweat...but thats just my opinion coz I own a wanky techy japo

    WRONG WRONG WRONG. in fact the wrongness of that rant is encapsulated in the phrase "lap times"

    Some of us couldnt give a flying fuck what lap times our bikes do, so long as we have a good time riding them (out for coffee, out to the shops, on holiday, cos its a nice day.... get my drift).

    since when waa ANY GSXR "comfortable"? unless by "comfortable" you mean "uncomfortable" ?

    bah humbug

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    Thumbs up Old technology

    Your post is somewhat flame-bait, but in order to make your day go faster, here's my 2c

    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyc
    was at the lights at the top of nelson st today, there was a chap on a nice looking new yellow triumph daytona. at first i was really impressed about how the bike looked , until i looked down to see a tiny set of non USD forks , and only 4 pot calipers, WTF is up with that
    Many reviewers commented that the Triumph 4 potters felt as good and stopped as well as the then-current trendy 6 potters, and agreed with Triumphs decision to avoid technology for technology's sake. And what are we seeing lately? 6-potters are considered "old tech" in favour of this week's hot item, 4-pot radials.

    didnt conventional forks go out a while back??
    Out where? They still work. See lots of them on bikes everywhere?! Front ends 'round the world didn't suddenly collapse because USDs arrived.

    Another example is a mate used to have a triumph daytona super 3 (came with CF pipes etc) but i remember it was a 1999 or close and only had 110hp at the back wheel - thats pus if you ask me
    The Super III was a hotted-up version of a 1989 bike (which had conservative engineering from a new manufacturer with a famous name). Nothing significant changed in the engine/chassis department for the T3 models from first release back then through to when the last models were finally discontinued last year. But at the time of release, the Super III was *the* meanest Trumpy... who cares about the actual numbers, this was the Triumph with the best numbers...kewl!

    but just confused why anyone would buy a bike with old technology ??
    'Cos the whole is more than the sum of the parts?

    'Cos today's new technology is tomorrow's belly-laff?

    'Cos homo-sapiens and the laws of physics simply don't change so fast that old technology ceases to function effectively?

    'Cos new technology is not always better, particularly v1.0?

    'Cos maybe the technology was bought when it *was* new, and there is no compelling reason to get rid of it?

    btw the Japs are rarely technology leaders; they tend to popularise European innovations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by **R1**
    you recon new school stuff is for wanking rights, i disagree, what would you like me to read again??
    Just the part you alleged I said will do.
    Speed doesn't kill people.
    Stupidity kills people.

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