And it goes on and on and on.

**inlinefour** · 18th December 2005, 11:03

Originally Posted by Marmoot

I'm sick of these PC bullshit that protects the criminal perpetrators while us victims becomes more victimized.

Plus, what thieves would say they're guilty if they know they are protected by law?

We whinge, bitch and complain yet do nothing about it as a whole society. i can't see anything changing due to this fact.

**Marmoot** · 19th December 2005, 00:07

Originally Posted by inlinefour

We whinge, bitch and complain yet do nothing about it as a whole society. i can't see anything changing due to this fact.

any suggestion?

I suggested petition before but my enthusiasm was successfully shot down by some members.

**Ixion** · 19th December 2005, 01:02

The gubbermint have already ignored two petitions with (literally) millions of signature; for reducing the number of MPs and tougher sentences for crims.

Why suppose they would take any notice of another petition

And the vaunted fall back position, voting the government out at the next election, is meaningless since the only opposition is just as bad.

So if "democracy" has shown itself to be a crock of shit (as it always does) , what's left?

Revolution - power flows from the barrel of a gun. Join the Communists. No?

Then direct action. Get enough people and you can storm the prisons, drag out the malefactors and lynch them .No?

Protest. Lots of people waving banners and shouting slogans. Which the gubbernmint will ignore . No?

Vigilance committees. If national action won't work try doing it locally. Set up a watch and ward society. Patrol your own area. Any low life you find, catch them and deal with them yourselves. Might work. But be aware that if said lowlifes run to the police, they (the police) will be on lowlife's side not yours. So, be prepared to do gaol time for your beliefs. As good men have done before you, look at Nelson Mandela . Or almost any of our trade union leaders. No ?

Then , you just have to suck it up and live with it..

Me, I'm for revolution m'self.

**SixPackBack** · 19th December 2005, 05:09

Originally Posted by Ixion

The gubbermint have already ignored two petitions with (literally) millions of signature; for reducing the number of MPs and tougher sentences for crims.

Why suppose they would take any notice of another petition

And the vaunted fall back position, voting the government out at the next election, is meaningless since the only opposition is just as bad.

So if "democracy" has shown itself to be a crock of shit (as it always does) , what's left?

Revolution - power flows from the barrel of a gun. Join the Communists. No?

Then direct action. Get enough people and you can storm the prisons, drag out the malefactors and lynch them .No?

Protest. Lots of people waving banners and shouting slogans. Which the gubbernmint will ignore . No?

Vigilance committees. If national action won't work try doing it locally. Set up a watch and ward society. Patrol your own area. Any low life you find, catch them and deal with them yourselves. Might work. But be aware that if said lowlifes run to the police, they (the police) will be on lowlife's side not yours. So, be prepared to do gaol time for your beliefs. As good men have done before you, look at Nelson Mandela . Or almost any of our trade union leaders. No ?

Then , you just have to suck it up and live with it..

Me, I'm for revolution m'self.

My choice for what its worth.

**Lou Girardin** · 19th December 2005, 07:29

The burglary victim is an idiot, plain and (very) simple. Those kids could have made all sorts of allegations about what happened in the car.
What Spud said is right (God forbid).
This isn't PC at all, it's common sense. Or the lack of.

**inlinefour** · 19th December 2005, 08:33

Originally Posted by Marmoot

any suggestion?

I suggested petition before but my enthusiasm was successfully shot down by some members.

To be honest no, I don't have any suggestions. As a country we have done petitions to air our voices but at the govt level, they turn a deaf ear/eye. I dont think it makes much difference who is in power either. As they all seem to work to their own agendas...

**spudchucka** · 19th December 2005, 12:26

Originally Posted by markauckland

but we arnt talking about intelligent people...

they bought the dvd player got home then went oh shit we have to buy a dvd... i mean honestly

Good call!

**spudchucka** · 19th December 2005, 12:29

Originally Posted by markauckland

spud do you take your law and order books with you everywhere?

just pulling that shit outta no where.....im impressed

ahhh a cop that knows laws ohhh lordy

When you deal with shit like this everyday you tend to acquire a good working knowledge of the applicable laws. I still have to refer to statute books to check the actual wording of particular sections but some you deal with so often you just know them verbatim.

Are people still forming up the posse or have they put away their pitch forks for the time being?

**spudchucka** · 19th December 2005, 12:39

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

What Spud said is right (God forbid)..

WTF, I nearly feel off my chair! :spudwow:

**madboy** · 19th December 2005, 12:51

As much as I'm just itching to get into slagging the pigs again... umm, er... I can't really find a case for doing so here.

If there was a little more certainty that these kids were the theiving scum, then yeah, I'd be throwing rocks at the cops. I mean, they've got a monopoly to protect, and must actively discourage anyone muscling in on their turf. But the whole deal looks a little weak to me.

Potentially an over-reacting burglary victim. There's plenty out there. I've seen road rage incidents where the "innocent" party has lost the plot, punched the driver a few times, kicked in the door. Then you end up with a middle aged otherwise respectable person getting done for assault and willy damage, and a smart-arse teenage road menace getting the last laugh.

Vigilante actions work much better when there are no witnesses.