Regulations for end cans

[moggy]

Hi, I haven't been round here for a while, been a little busy.

could some one point me in the right direction for the law regarding end cans for road use. We are moving over to New Zealand in about 6 months and were wondering whether to get a new one here or there (I sadly redesigned mine when I dropped it). But I don't really want to buy one now and then discovere I have to replace it later.

[Mooch]

Have a friend in NZ with an Arrows pipe on her SV , She doesn't seem to have an issue with getting warrants etc. We don't have a max DB set yet, but the Police can ticket noisy vehicles.
I've got a full Arrows system on my , have also had no issues with warrants.

Does anyone here know if it's different when your bike goes through the VIN process ?

[moggy]

thanks for that, it is the VIN thing that I am concerned about, as obviously it will have to pass all that as soon as we import it. I wasn't thinking about putting a race can on, it would be something that was legal in the UK

[Mooch]

A couple of links that maybe of use to you , Other members like Motu would have a better idea , but I'd say if you putting on a UK road legal system then you should be fine.

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/factsheets/44.html
http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/publications...europe.html#lc
http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/vehicle-ownership/warrant.html

[Posh Tourer :P]

VIN testing (COF) tends to be stricter on aftermarket exhausts than a WOF, it would have to comply with a NZ standard of some sort. Whether that is the same as the UK standards I am not sure.... If it looks standard however, you have a good chance of the tester not knowing what they are really looking at.

[cowpoos]

my TL was making 100.8db at idle with the twin race yoshi's....got WOF no worries never questioned about them....I had a cop tell me my bike sounded awesome one day....

Just chuck a race pipe on it...you'll be fine

[Clockwork]

May be safer to change it here (it could well be cheaper too).

[Timetogo]

bought mine over from the UK last year with a full micron system and had no problem. Long as its not to noisy i wouldn't expect any porblem at all

[terbang]

I Imported a bike from Ozzie last year and it had a horrendously noisey aftermarket pipe on it and it was vinned with no questions asked about the pipe.

[moggy]

thanks for all your replies, looks like it shouldnt be a problem whatever I pick.
Could someone point me in the direction of a good website in NZ so I can compare prices please.

[Skyryder]

I Imported a bike from Ozzie last year and it had a horrendously noisey aftermarket pipe on it and it was vinned with no questions asked about the pipe.

Saw something on TV the other night about boy racer noisy cars. Din't realy take much notice but 'sounds' like one of the councils is doing something about noisy cars. Anyone see this and know any details.

Skyryder

[APPLE]

i woz stung 4 havin 2 loudda pipes?i had 2 brother pipes on my TL.dude said the manager told not 2 warrant the bike,i went off my nut 2 the manager man,so i said how do u tell harley owners 2 take there pipes off because there loud man?i tell yah i cudda knockd this guy out man?he says the goverments gettn hard on vehicle noise emmisions, and were the ones who are gettn in trouble?so i left him 2 it lost my 30bucks or so?and went 2another outfit, and they had no problem given a warrant.jus pisses me off that these people bitch at noisey bikes,and young fellas drive around in rotary cars that sound like shit and cant handel it?...jus warrant the dam bike?

[vifferman]

Does anyone here know if it's different when your bike goes through the VIN process ?

Depends.
Kerry (@ Motohaus) puts a lot of bikes through for certification, and the guy is VERY tough. However, the lady at work and her husband had their HDs go through certification with virtually no checking at all! The guy went, "Nice bikes!" and issued the VINs, despite them both being equipped with VERY noisy Screamin' Beagle drag pipes.

[Deano]

i woz stung 4 havin 2 loudda pipes?i had 2 brother pipes on my TL.dude said the manager told not 2 warrant the bike,i went off my nut 2 the manager man,so i said how do u tell harley owners 2 take there pipes off because there loud man?i tell yah i cudda knockd this guy out man?he says the goverments gettn hard on vehicle noise emmisions, and were the ones who are gettn in trouble?so i left him 2 it lost my 30bucks or so?and went 2another outfit, and they had no problem given a warrant.jus pisses me off that these people bitch at noisey bikes,and young fellas drive around in rotary cars that sound like shit and cant handel it?...jus warrant the dam bike?

jeez man, you shuldna bin able to go to any otha WOF cos theyr all linkt by puta these days man.

an i luv rotariees an wot does their handlin hav ta do wid noiiz ya egg

[Deano]

Traffic Regulations 1976

Schedules
[[Schedule 1
r29(2)
Maximum noise output of new vehicles
1. In this Schedule,—
(a) The term “gross vehicle weight”, in relation to a motor vehicle, means the weight specified as the gross vehicle weight of the vehicle by the manufacturer thereof:
(b) The term “power output”, in relation to an engine, means the net power produced by the engine, measured in accordance with International Standard I.S.O. 1585.
2. When measured in accordance with test methods laid down in British Standard 3425 or in I.S.O. Recommendation 362, the maximum permitted noise level shall be—

Noise
Level
Vehicle Type dBA
Moped 77
Motor cycle having an engine capacity of 125 cm3 or less
82
Motor cycle having an engine capacity of more than 125 cm3
86
Motor vehicle (being a motorcar, van, or light truck) having a gross vehicle weight of 3500 kg or less
81
Motor vehicle having a gross vehicle weight of more than 3500 kg and having an engine with a power output of 150 kW or less

86
Motor vehicle having a gross vehicle weight of more than 3500 kg and having an engine with a power output of more than 150 kW

88.]]


Now I'm sure I've seen stamped into some standard cans, noise output of 93 dBA - perhaps this level was produced under different operating conditions but it begs the question are some standard bikes non-compliant ?