How do I perform this manuver ?

**justsomeguy** · 29th December 2005, 18:03

Originally Posted by SpeedMedic

God knows you need it.
Please dont teach this boy anything. Ive seen you going around corners.

Originally Posted by enigma51

You should also try and teach yourself the two finger braking method. and what ever you do dont get justsomeguy (sorry mate) to teach you he is still needs alot of training.

My dearest Armchair Critics and Gossip Mongers (neither of you have really seen me ride or know me) - I didn't say teach - I said:

Originally Posted by justsomeguy

Go find a lonely straight road and practice.

Which area do you live in?? I don't mind coming and practicing with you.

I honestly find it funny how you are so quick to criticise others, yet so humorously vulnerable when someone points out your fallacies. Enigma that bit about you cutting corners was good entertainment. SpeedMedic whatever rocks your boat little man, I hope you get a life someday. By the way - did I miss the bit where either of you offered to do anything to help Mops out, apart from show off your knowledge of motorcycle jargon?

Mops - I have nothing to prove, the easiest thing for you to do is go out and practice and I'm happy to do that with you and MyVice tomorrow.

Learning the science behind what makes gears turn and finding out fancy methods are great but you'll learn that in time anyway if that is the sort of subject matter you find interesting, it won't suddenly make you an ace gear changer overnight.

Finding a road and practicing and attending a professional course such as the Passrite and BRONZ events are still what I recommend.
Either case relax and enjoy it, aren’t bikes fun

**Ixion** · 29th December 2005, 20:01

Originally Posted by mops

I try to clutch in/out evey gear, but sometimes (only when I have to reduce to neutral or 1st), I block-downshift all the way.

Ouchy. Not a good idea on a 4 stroke bike gearbox. 'Tis different to a car. Always one at a time. You can get away with it on a twosmoker, but even there it's hard on the box.

**justsomeguy** · 30th December 2005, 08:57

Originally Posted by SpeedMedic

Ive have seen plenty or your "riding". Dont want to know you, but it makes no difference to your riding... Dont Know Rossi, but he can fuckin ride.

I have a wonderful life thanks, for your concern anyway. Lovely wife, child, great job and plenty of family and freinds. Having a ball.

Oh no it is there, just scroll up a bit, yeah you musta missed that bit where I gave some helpful advice. Good how mops has been listening to it eh? Maybe you could learn something.

Thank God for that..

Dont be starting any shit slinging Apu, cause you will find your self very lost. I've edited the really embarrasing bits I wrote, out again, tempt me to put em back in.

Hahaha - you just proved my point about being a sad, vulnerable person.

Put back whatever crap you want to put in....... you're not capable of much more than some foul mouthed criticism anyway........

Life's too short for this bullshit, see ya.

**enigma51** · 30th December 2005, 09:19

Originally Posted by justsomeguy

My dearest Armchair Critics and Gossip Mongers (neither of you have really seen me ride or know me) - I didn't say teach - I said:

**emaN** · 2nd January 2006, 19:51

Originally Posted by HDTboy

Mops: Listen to Motu, my bike's similar gearing to yours and I rarely use 4th in town.

yes...this is very true - i can personally attest & vouch for his honesty here. He uses 1st, 2nd and what sounds like a 2nd 1/2... to keep those revs up there with Lucy and her diamonds!

**Leong** · 20th January 2006, 13:39

Hi Mops,
Found this thread few days ago and wanted to post but haven't found time... Too busy working or riding!! You might have moved on in abilities by now.... and if so, I'd be keen to know how your'e getting on.

I had the same thoughts as you when I started riding... not that I'm that much better now... Changing up at relatively low revs, and still in a car mentality. Realised that the red line on my bike was 12krpm but still, 5k felt like thrashing it. If you haven't already, you will get used to using more revs. The VTR250 is doing 7krpm in top gear at 100km/h and I'm now quite happy to cruise along at that rpm all day. That close ratio box - you will really enjoy this when you start thrashing it - it's great changing up and having the revs drop you right back in the meaty part of the powerband.

As for blipping the throttle on downchanges, I've only just started doing this, preferring to concentrate on other skills up to now. I thought it was more important to be able to move off smoothly, change gear at the appropriate time, release the clutch smoothly so the rear wheel doesn't lock up, use indicators correctly, judge corner entry speed and which gear to be in, before learning to blip the throttle and use the front brake at the same time. ( I think all the instructors I have come across have favoured the 4 finger braking ). Learning to use your front and rear brakes at the appropriate time, instinctively is also more important. I can remember not even being able to find the rear brake, when I started.

I also think all of this should be done in a safer environment, where cars aren't going to run up yr bum...., or you're not going to ride into oncoming traffic if you take a corner too fast and go wide. They are an unnecessary and possibly dangerous distraction, at a time when a lot of your attention is on the basic motorcycle handling, which eventually will become habit and second nature. A nice quiet subdivision with a cul de sac.... preferably one that splits into a tee at the end, can make good "tracks"... just make up a "track" that includes many gear changes, sweeping and hairpin turns, and just get out there in the evenings and practice, practice , practice, until you're happy with your riding. Then make your "track" larger...

If you don't have to commute on the bike, then dont, until you're confident that you are more in control of yr bike, and to a certain degree the situation you put yourself in when on the bike.

Good luck

**mops** · 20th January 2006, 14:35

Thanks for a good word of advice.

Yes, I've been commutin on entirely on my bike last few weeks (can is out of action and the wheather is great).

I'm more comfortable now with using more rpm's. Depending on how in rush I am I can shift up up at 6k rpm or 16k rpm....

I even took a short motorway trip the other day

was very windy and I was being thrown around the lane alot. however next to me there was this big fat dude on a huge harley, and the wind didnt seem to affect him....

basically, i'm improving slowly but surly, slowly exploring 'the envelope' trying to to do stoopid thinks

and yesterday 5pm traffick pissed me off so much that I had to split lanes at traffic lights !

still... for that very scenario.. slowing down from 70kph to 15 kph and dropping down 4 gears could be improved in terms of smoothness if you know what I mean

**JWALKER** · 20th January 2006, 14:42

Originally Posted by mops

Thanks for a good word of advice.

Yes, I've been commutin on entirely on my bike last few weeks (can is out of action and the wheather is great).

I'm more comfortable now with using more rpm's. Depending on how in rush I am I can shift up up at 6k rpm or 16k rpm....

I even took a short motorway trip the other day

was very windy and I was being thrown around the lane alot. however next to me there was this big fat dude on a huge harley, and the wind didnt seem to affect him....

basically, i'm improving slowly but surly, slowly exploring 'the envelope' trying to to do stoopid thinks

and yesterday 5pm traffick pissed me off so much that I had to split lanes at traffic lights !

still... for that very scenario.. slowing down from 70kph to 15 kph and dropping down 4 gears could be improved in terms of smoothness if you know what I mean

it is really good to see you improving.like the others said practice is the key.
i am still learning my bike and its a little bigger than yours, the wind still throws me around now and then, but you get used to it after awhile.
the more you ride, the more confident you will get, just go at your own pace and you will improve alot quicker, if you ever want anything answered or help, let me know

**mops** · 20th January 2006, 14:53

Great.

I really wouldnt mind attending a meet in auckland area, to meet up with fellow KB'ers and get some tips from experienced riders. Next time there's one held (that doesnt involve riding 500km's), i'm in

**Leong** · 20th January 2006, 21:56

Originally Posted by mops

Great.

I really wouldnt mind attending a meet in auckland area, to meet up with fellow KB'ers and get some tips from experienced riders. Next time there's one held (that doesnt involve riding 500km's), i'm in

Have you registered for Weasels Newbies ride next weekend? Looks like it'll be a good one. Once you're reasonably confident, you learn a lot more when riding with others.... only problem is that you mustn't push beyond your abilities.... ie ride at your own pace...

Yes the wind is something you get used to... just takes time.

Originally Posted by JWALKER

the more you ride, the more confident you will get,

Yep, What he said

**Qkchk:Me** · 20th January 2006, 22:02

Originally Posted by WRT

Bigger issue, is what are you doing in 5th or 6th at 60kph???

That is my point too.........

**DingDong** · 20th January 2006, 22:16

??? use lower gears... you dont need to "blip" the engine under de-cel unless your pulling alot of RPM.

Someones surely said this (cant be bothered reading the thread)

Rider training is for people like you... spend money to save money/injury

**Dafe** · 20th January 2006, 22:25

If you buy a K6 Gixxer thou, you can ride 1st gear everywhere, unless you want to go over 170kph. Now you can ride all over town, no gera changing needed! Problem Solved!

**2much** · 20th January 2006, 22:31

Yeah, but if you buy a K6 then you've got to wait till march/april to ride cause of a world shortage of titanium and carbonfibre or some shit. By then the weather will be shitty and cold and you'll have to stay in the garage and polish your new beast...... hey problem solved! what great advice!