NZ Road Toll Now Higher Than Last Year

[scumdog]

I'm so enlightened, so the way it SOULD be is:

Bikers can travel as fast as the want, if an individual from the Police forgets this and attempts to stop the biker due to his speed the biker is at liberty to vacate the area with all possible speed whereupon the Police should immediately pull over, turn off red&blue lights as well as the siren should it have been used.
The biker is then able to carry on (somehow knowing that he is not being chased anymore - but of course he knows that, see first line!!) at the speed he desires, - gosh this is all so simple, why has nobody explained this to me before????!

And oh, I'm waiting for the answer to the last comment I made on my previous post.

[Marmoot]

Was that the chase up northland way where the bike took out an oncoming car, killed the girl?

yes, i believe.......unless the story was only a fabrication?

[RantyDave]

You must remember that none of the powers that be actually have any functional brain cells.

You see, I hate this attitude. I have met a few of the powers that be and I can assure you that many of them are focussed, diligent and intelligent human beings who dedicate themselves 100% to remaining in power.

What? Do some good for the public? Do get a grip - there are policies to police, spin to be spun and Ngai Whatever to appease. Where are they supposed to find time to improve everyone else's quality of life?

Dave

[madboy]

Of course the higher the speed the more unlikely it is that I'd even consider stopping in the first place. 95% chance of a ticket (or worse) if I stop, 95% chance of not getting a ticket if I don't. Gee, tough choice.

Look, Scumdog, I think you and I should just agree to disagree on runners and the like. You strike me as one of the good guys, unlike certain of your brethren on this site. I don't really think I should be arguing this with you.

I do believe that the police focus on road safety is in the wrong place. And I'm sure you would agree with me in some respects on that. Cameras, lowering the speeding tolerance, focusing on the lower end, not the upper. Competency of drivers, etc etc etc...

But hey, we live in a modern world, and money does make the world go around. So unless we develop a Maori road safety initiative (in which case endless funds will be available), we've got to accept that it's all about self-funding. Just hope it doesn't spread further up the tree and you start having to issue instant fines for beating the wife.

[Indoo]

Oh right. I forgot about that, sorry. This will not happen with bikes, aye?

Did you not read the part where I said far more likely?

How often do you read about bikers crashing into oncoming cars and wiping out all the occupants of the oncoming car, compared to some young dick in a car too fast for him killing others?

The guy on the bike is still a knob, but the vast majority of bike crashes revolve around the biker dieing, even when not at fault.

[Marmoot]

How often do you read about bikers crashing into oncoming cars and wiping out all the occupants of the oncoming car, compared to some young dick in a car too fast for him killing others?

The guy on the bike is still a knob, but the vast majority of bike crashes revolve around the biker dieing, even when not at fault.

death is death, regardless of whose and how many.
But, on the note of how often, I see a lot of crashes resulting from rider errors everyday. Don't you?

[idb]

I blame the hospitals, Government and social services that save 'tards that in any other animal group would have been eliminated.
Because of that we all ahave to share the roads with these saved 'tards.

Aaahhhh...you are truly a scholar and philosopher of some standing SD.
Sense at last!

[Indoo]

death is death, regardless of whose and how many.
But, on the note of how often, I see a lot of crashes resulting from rider errors everyday. Don't you?

Yep and we also have a high suicide rate, what I'm more concerned about now I have a family is some idiot driving a car far beyond his abilties coming around a corner and taking out said family.

I really don't care about rider error or dick's who cant spend .001 of a second putting on there seat belt. So long as they die and they don't take out any innocent party its a bit of a win win situation as far as I'm concerned. I've never doubted Darwin.

[idb]

I think that, telephone polls notwithstanding, if you were able to interview everyone on the road at a particular time and ask them what dangerous driving they actually observed they would talk about tailgating, overtaking, wandering over the centreline before mentioning speeding.
Harder to police I accept but concentrating so rigidly on speeding is alienating a large chunk of the populace that doesn't deserve to be targetted.

Don't ask me for answers, just leave me alone.

[SPman]

And if you didn't have a large proportion of idiots on the road this might work. However what speed to you think a young idiot in a turbo jap car with his mates is going to find 'comfortable', or Mr Smallpenis in his HSV who has something to prove.

You would end up with these idiots who want to do 140+ spending alot of time on the wrong side of the road overtaking joe blogs with his family whose doing 110

And then it can quickly become dangerous driving........so hit them with that!

[idb]

And then it can quickly become dangerous driving........so hit them with that!

Exactly78910

[miSTa]

And oh, I'm waiting for the answer to the last comment I made on my previous post.

You mean this one SD?

Nothing like taking a bit of personal responsibilty eh?

"..not MY fault if they decide to chase me and it all turns to shit......"

Can't argue against that.

[spudchucka]

Scumdog, the runner doesn't start until the cop tries to pull you over. And why do they try and pull you over? For speeding. So if they focused on dangerous driving to start with, and not speeding, then they wouldn't have tried to pull the bike over. So the runner would have never started. And that means the cops wouldn't have been on the wrong side of the road at 200k into oncoming traffic. But since a 1600kg car (or 3) doing 200k+ into oncoming traffic on the other side of the road is better for road safety than a 170kg motorcycle doing 130k in their own lane with no cars in front or behind... guess what's gonna happen.

Spud, you and Andy Knacksted need to get a room. Last time I had to listen to a cop tell me that ticketing me for 120-something on a deserted 4-lane/median barriered mway was contributing to road safety... oh God, it took me ages to wipe the tears from my eyes.

Can't you just admit that Road Safety as administered by the cops in NZ is just revenue gathering? At least IRD are honest about what their jobs are.

By saying you don't agree with cameras, you're also saying you don't agree with a significant proportion of the road policing that goes on. Like the Highway Patrol for starters. Most of those guys seem to park exactly where 110+ is safe and easy to do. JUST LIKE CAMERA VANS. I don't see too many HP hiding in the middle of Paekak or the takas busting cages coming around blind corners on the wrong side of the road. God no, because that doesn't immediately self fund.

You're an idiot mate. Its not worth anymore of my time indulging you in your fantasies.

[madboy]

You're an idiot mate. Its not worth anymore of my time indulging you in your fantasies.

Yes, frustration with idiocy is one of the reasons your brethren don't get indulged at the roadside too.

[spudchucka]

Yes, frustration with idiocy is one of the reasons your brethren don't get indulged at the roadside too.

Like I've said before, you'll get a karma slap eventually, its just a matter of time.