carrying a pillion.

**lia** · 8th January 2006, 20:17

only when he is in top form ...

but shhhh he might think he is some demi god or something

**boomer** · 8th January 2006, 20:19

Originally Posted by lia

only when he is in top form ...

but shhhh he might think he is some demi god or something

Lia, I must therefore assume you must be deaf as a door nail, cos those zorsts are noisey as fork!

**lia** · 8th January 2006, 20:24

well that was back in the days when the TL1000 was in one piece. although she was a bit of a talker too ...

when i said 'long journey' i meant chch to akl. after a while the noise is like a lullabye

**boomer** · 8th January 2006, 20:28

Happy days

In response to the original post, get your partner to be your rear view mirrors for ya, make up a little sign language between the two of you.. seen it done and very effective

**oldrider** · 8th January 2006, 21:22

Cowbyz, I don't want to talk down to you but picking up a comment in one of your posts about pillions reaction to corner.
Are you steering or counter steering your bike?. If you are steering the bike you will get out of sink with both the bike and the passenger every now and then and you wont really know whats causing it. More noticeable on long sweepers, you will be taking too many swipes at it instead of a lovely long sweep that feels so good. Look well ahead to where you want to go, not where you are going. Press the inside grip down and gently pull the outside bar in gently but firmly. If your eyes are fixed well out in the line where you want to go you will automatically adjust your bodyweight, seat and power, into position best for the maneuver.
Its the same principle as riding a horse in a circle, if you get it right it feels great for everyone. (including the horse)
Phew I just let my self go through that hope it makes sense to you.
If it doesn't, ask someone else. Words get in the way sometimes. :spudwhat: Cheers John.

**Mental Trousers** · 8th January 2006, 21:59

CCTV!! Camera under the back seat and screen in a tank bag!! Ok, not totally practical but way cool.

**cowboyz** · 8th January 2006, 22:29

Originally Posted by oldrider

Cowbyz, I don't want to talk down to you but picking up a comment in one of your posts about pillions reaction to corner.
Are you steering or counter steering your bike?. If you are steering the bike you will get out of sink with both the bike and the passenger every now and then and you wont really know whats causing it. More noticeable on long sweepers, you will be taking too many swipes at it instead of a lovely long sweep that feels so good. Look well ahead to where you want to go, not where you are going. Press the inside grip down and gently pull the outside bar in gently but firmly. If your eyes are fixed well out in the line where you want to go you will automatically adjust your bodyweight, seat and power, into position best for the maneuver.
Its the same principle as riding a horse in a circle, if you get it right it feels great for everyone. (including the horse)
Phew I just let my self go through that hope it makes sense to you.
If it doesn't, ask someone else. Words get in the way sometimes. :spudwhat: Cheers John.

Good advice really. It is a bit of a long story but I will see how short I can make it. My wife hasn't got aon a bike because she is really nervous of the bike being lent over. So to start with that is why we went out himitangi. Long striaght roads to start with, Then I was trying to keep the bike as upright as possible which is actually a really unnatural way to ride but I was doing my best. Then as she got more comfortable I was laying it down more a little at a time on each corner so she could get used to the feel of the bike rolling from one side to the other. It got to the stage where I could start riding properly counter steering where the bike will lay itself down nicely into the corner and stay there. This "incident" only happened one one corner out of the 140k we did for the day so it was a minor. Just a little tight and her getting used to the way the bike turns. Its all good. Might be a few rides before I take her over the sadle road but we have to take these things slowly or she will just give up on the idea. It has only taken 10 years to get her this far. Don't want to go rushing things.

**FROSTY:Me** · 8th January 2006, 22:45

cowboys--Mate My advice--tis well worth the effort.
Pillion had never been on the back of a bike before she met me and now she just loves it.
I'd suggest you make the rides short and explain what you'll be doing during the ride.

The odd reassuring squeeze on the knee wont go astray either.
Ya adjust YOUR riding to suit the pillion but the amount you need to adjust it gets smaller as the pillion gets comfortable and relaxes.

**pritch** · 9th January 2006, 19:37

Originally Posted by Holy Roller

or get some bar end mirrors.

Good thinking batman. Rizoma and CRG do these, a Google search should be enlightening. If there is a manufacturer does "cheap" I haven't found them yet.

**gman** · 9th January 2006, 23:03

hopefully shes got the same protective gear as you or better???theres nuffin worse than seeing a loved one the ground after a crash.been there done that never ever wana do it again.

**Waylander** · 9th January 2006, 23:13

Use corners to your advantage. Not sure if this has been posted in here as I really didn't read the thread.

Anyway, I only have one mirror on my bike wich shows me not much other than my shoulder and what is in the next lane about to pass me. But what I do is on corners that I don't need to concentrate to hard for is glance in my mirror for a bit. That shows me what is behind me perfectly well.

**Sniper** · 10th January 2006, 07:09

Buy one of those campervan mirrors that you can stick onto the side of the fairing

**Grahameeboy** · 10th January 2006, 07:25

My SV has a similar problem without a pillion and you can get mirror spacers which bring the mirrors out. Not sure whether you can get for your bike but I am sure you could get someone to make something up out of hard rubber with holes.....

**emaN** · 10th January 2006, 12:00

hate mirrors on bikes, especially sports/sports-tourers...spoils the look.
removed them for a while, put those lil' round "blind spot" ones on the inside of my fairing, but they fell off.
left one's folded in, only use r/h one (occasionally). mostly rely on turn of the head.
BUT,places like the Isle of Man/Nurburgring...you're very grateful for 'em!

**cowboyz** · 10th January 2006, 14:38

Originally Posted by gman

hopefully shes got the same protective gear as you or better???theres nuffin worse than seeing a loved one the ground after a crash.been there done that never ever wana do it again.

not a good look. She is wearing my "commuter" jacket at the moment which has armour in the shoulders and arms and back. It is not a bad jacket. Steel cap work boots which haven't got alot in the way of ankle support and no pants.. Well she does wear pants but...

I think if I do drop it I hope I don't drop it in a place where there are any large bat-like objects handy otherwise I may fear for my safety.

It will probably come to the stage (realitively quickly) where she will get her own bike and gear which will be good.

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