KB rides, the ride or the rider?

[bugjuice]

eh ?

[SixPackBack]

I have been out of the saddle since October and unlikely to ride again till early February. I have watched in abject horror at the carnage on KB rides and realised the most enjoyable sojourn's have been either by myself or with a small group of like minded people.
Large KB runs invariably are badly organised and involve either personal or property damage of some description.
Also in spite of the 'pace' posted for the ride, as the day progresses collective speed increases.
My holiday has given me the opportunity to study the KB ride mentality and it seems largely an 'Auckland' problem, again it would seem that the Auckland KB chapter excel at one thing only....Crashing!
Good luck out there!

[Qkchk:Me]

If the presence of other riders goads you on, outside your own comfort zone, take a deep breath and just say "fuckit - Im riding my own ride, as fast/slow as I want." Don't ride to the speed, line, style of the bike in front. Dont fixate on the bike in front! Don't try and keep ahead of the bike behind at all costs, if it is clearly quicker than you.

I've noticed the woman riders are usually much better at this, than the men!

On all the KB rides I have been on...... the well organised ones that is........ Everyone waits for you @ the next major intersection and re-groups, so YOU CAN take it at your own pace without;

- Getting lost
- Binning it

Just keep that in mind. Let the fast nuts go ahead and enjoy yourself. You have good riding days and definatly bad riding days, take it as it comes and adjust to your skill-level-of-the-day..........

[chickenfunkstar]

I have been out of the saddle since October and unlikely to ride again till early February.....!

How are they badly organised? I can't see what the organisation of a ride has to do with an individual's decision to ride into a ditch, or cause some other mishap of some kind. I've seen a fair few incidents on KB rides, some minor, some quite major. I cannot attribute one to bad organisation.

[Qkchk:Me]

Shit.......... do I need to start putting a disclaimer on all my rides?

"Motorcycling is dangerous. The organiser will not be liable for damage, theft or person loss.................". yadda yadda ya.....

[Qkchk:Me]

Or as in a previous ride;

"will not be responsible for 30 hooning bikes in a 50kph zone"................ with Police involvement...............

[Goblin]

In my honest opinion it's nothing to do with KB or any of the organisers of rides. Its pure and simple that with the fine weather, more people are out riding so more people will bin. Now Im still a nooby at KB rides and have only been on two coro loops with KB. Second time out there were bins but it was only people who weren't on the ride who complained and criticised. It's always and ONLY up to the individual how they ride.
Now I ride as much as I can through winter and summer and notice the warmer weather brings out the wannabes, all fired up and thinking they're bullet proof. These are the potential victims who need to realise that its not a race on public roads and that we share these roads with some truely fucked up people in mobile death traps. I reckon FROSTY does an awesome job organising track days and if you feel the need to prove something, GET ON A TRACK!!!! Pukekohe has open days so go and take out all that bravado where it is safer to do so!
Please ride safe out there....I dont want to read any more sad news:spudwhat:

[chickenfunkstar]

Shit.......... do I need to start putting a disclaimer on all my rides?

"Motorcycling is dangerous. The organiser will not be liable for damage, theft or person loss.................". yadda yadda ya.....

Thats the type of thing that I was trying to speak out against. I.e. Each individual is responsible for their own actions.

[justsomeguy]

How are they badly organised? I can't see what the organisation of a ride has to do with an individual's decision to ride into a ditch, or cause some other mishap of some kind. I've seen a fair few incidents on KB rides, some minor, some quite major. I cannot attribute one to bad organisation.

Oi CF don't bite - he's fishing...... naughty fella deserves a spanking.

You've made a great point mate. Look at the number of rides we've been on, hardly any problems and we come home with big grins.......

And by the way - what is this "organisation" you guys are talking about?? If you want formally organised rides go pay some professionals to do it........

Can't be the riders fault for binning eh?? Lets blame the cagers, police, gravel, decreasing radius corners, ride organisers, colour of the sky.........

[Qkchk:Me]

Thats the type of thing that I was trying to speak out against. I.e. Each individual is responsible for their own actions.

Yeah I know, but there will be people out there who blame others but themselves. And I think we all pretty well know that the INDUVIDUAL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEMSELVES. Makes logical sense. User beware.

[Qkchk:Me]

And by the way - what is this "organisation" you guys are talking about?? If you want formally organised rides go pay some professionals to do it........

The "organising of rides" is people who decide they are goin out for a cruz or a blat and wish to have company OR wish to show others a good riding route etc... shit, ive never been paid for organising a group ride (and I've done a wee few now) and I NEVER expect to be, but that's getting off the main subject..... It's all in the good nature of KB. We all have a common interest here and I have made some beaut mates from it. Bins happen. So do loss of licenses. IT'S LIFE.

[justsomeguy]

Can't be the riders fault for binning eh?? Lets blame the cagers, police, gravel, decreasing radius corners, ride organisers, colour of the sky.........

Yeah I know, but there will be people out there who blame others but themselves.

Oh - goody :spudbooge - can I blame you too QkChk - pleeeeeezzze - just a little bit of the blame, like a tiny bit - huh?? huh??? .........

[Qkchk:Me]

Oh - goody :spudbooge - can I blame you too QkChk - pleeeeeezzze - just a little bit of the blame, like a tiny bit - huh?? huh??? .........

Yeah riiigggghhhhttttt............. so when you getting a minimoto? I saw you eyeing them up @ the Henderson race.....

[justsomeguy]

Yeah riiigggghhhhttttt............. so when you getting a minimoto? I saw you eyeing them up @ the Henderson race.....

Ahh.... I think I'll stick to watching.....

I prefer bikes that I can lap the Dwive with..... 38k's of pure bliss..... especially under a starlit sky .......aaaaahhhhh......

Anyway back to the topic on hand- who did we decide to blame the bins on??

[Qkchk:Me]

Anyway back to the topic on hand- who did we decide to blame the bins on??

You COULD blame me - I get the blame for everything around the house.........