KB rides, the ride or the rider?

[SixPackBack]

Another thing that needs to change within KB is the erroneous belief is that those that ride quickly are better riders than those that seldom bin........might be OK for the track but it stinks for the road!
Sadly KB rides are measured on who is fastest, rather than those who complete the ride unscathed!

[APPLE]

yeh man,it all cums down 2 rider ability,if yah know yor machine,wot it can and cant do?then yor sweet mate,POWER IS NOTHIN WITHOUT CONTROL?my pirelli way of sayn things.

[NotaGoth]

I'm not reading through this whole thread, but having known someone who has been "blamed" for crashes on rides that they have organised.. Maybe people should take responsibility for their own actions rather than trying to put blame on someone else and claiming its a poorly organized ride.. I mean.. If your gonna start pointing the finger and playing the blame game who in their right mind would wanna organize any rides in future for KB members when they are then going to be blamed if anyone craps off..?

[White trash]

Another thing that needs to change within KB is the erroneous belief is that those that ride quickly are better riders than those that seldom bin........

And what if you can do both? Does that make someone a super hero? Like me?

[SixPackBack]

And what if you can do both? Does that make someone a super hero? Like me?

Well yes I suppose it does Jimmy, however.....Riff Raff informed us about your inverted member and the 'tweaser' episode and now instead of awe, fellow KBers snigger and point not knowing whether to laugh or cry!

[Patch]

Yep! you gotta take responsibilty for yr own riding and be aware of others around ya. I did my first KB ride on Sat and thoroughly enjoyed it, there was a mixture of guys and gals and each of us rode at the speed we were comfortable with, NO PROBS.

Was a nice too, riding with you all, from the short time I tagged along.

Was sort of wimped ass'd nancy boy is goin' blame the organiser cause he/she has the inability to judge riding conditions to suit their style - some people fukin wimps.

[Gremlin]

Its simple init?? We could organise rides with road captains, no overtaking each other, no speeding and so on. Nobody would ride on them.

Group riding is about the social aspect at the stops I reckon. Take some responsibility for your own actions, simple.

Personally, when actually riding, I like to ride alone, then have a yarn about the section at the next stop, corners, cars whatever, thats what group rides are to me. Also, asking questions of people who have a certain bike, or how people tackled problems, so on.

Not to bash the newbies, but I think we do need to watch them. Stop them going faster than they should be. You simply haven't had enough practice at controlling oh shit moments yet. Newbie rides are good for that.

Ultimately, ride your own ride, and stop piling political shit into the ride, making them unattractive to organise or attend.

[Hitcher]

I feel sorry for those with good intentions who organise group rides. Dozens roll up, walk around each other's bikes like dogs meeting on the beach. Testosterone levels rise as they wait for the starter to release the hare.

Organiser gives mandatory safefy schpiel, sends "fast" riders off first, stresses need for people to ride safely and within their own limits, being courteous, not to harass kindy mums in RAV4s, etc. Rising testosterone levels facilitate selective hearing and partial deafness. For some, this message translates as "Get your cock out, go like stink and impress the Big Squids on their Gixxer thous".

Le Mans start. Chaos and carnage ensues. Bikers getting overtaken by others on blind corners, or up the inside on blind corners, wheelie and stoppie competitions, roll-ons, the whole 8.23 metres. Extremely intimidating, even for those with strong stomachs and low testosterone.

I now don't do big group rides. They're intimidating and unsafe. I only ride with people I trust and respect.

I feel sorry for those with good intentions who organise group rides.

[The_Dover]

i blame the turkeys, sunstrike and gravel mainly.

[Virago]

.........the whole 8.23 metres....

It took a while, but eventually the 0.83333 cent dropped....:slap:

[inlinefour]

And what a fuggin beeudy it was too.

The reason KBers crash on KB rides is simple, 98% of KBers can't actually ride a fucken motorcycle because they spend all their time on KB bitching about cagers/cops/speeding tickets/cagers/notwearingtherightprotectivegear/cops rather than actually practicing the art of riding a motorcycle.

So on that theory, you have about twice as many posts as I, so your twice as bad a rider as me? (pt)

[trumpy]

....... Let the fast nuts go ahead and enjoy yourself. You have good riding days and definatly bad riding days, take it as it comes and adjust to your skill-level-of-the-day..........

Exactly. Pretty simple really.
(probably a little rich coming from someone who has never been on a KB ride but sometimes logic is pretty simple)

[Kornholio]

So on that theory, you have about twice as many posts as I, so your twice as bad a rider as me? (pt)

Na, it just means that he spends too much time on this site and has no skill on a bike

[RiderInBlack]

OK, here's my two pence:

Group rides can tend to bring out the "Got to be first/Don't want to be last or left behind" in many riders (I'll own it, gets me too. I hate being left behind).

Good group riders I have been on have the following:

A lead Biker that is will to stop at intersections and wait for the group to re:group before moving on. This Biker is not often the fastest.

Tailend Charlie Rider who know where the lend is going and is happy to lookout for the strugglers. This rider is often a compedent rider who can ride hard if they want to be is happy to cruise.

The very best rides I have ridden on (Mainly run by HD MC's) have Points-man that know where the lead is going. They are fast compedent riders. They wait on corners for the slower riders to point the way and then ride to catch the lead. This allows the Lead to ride without having to stop at very corner.

The group has an understanding that they can ride at the pace they prefur as long as they don't pass the lead and let the pointsmen pass.

The group knows how many riders are with them and are prepared to look for the missing.

I have had a lot of fun on Poker Runs because of this. The pace has not be too slow and everbody has had fun.

The last big KB ride I went on put me off these rides because:

Too many try hards trying to prove a point and not think about the other riders around them.
Leads taking off without having someone to clearly mark the turn-offs.
Riders holding up riders.
Riders taking risky moves to pass the above.

One last thing: If a rider is gaining on you, don't try holding him/her off. Make it easy for them to pass (eg. pull over to the left and hold that line). If you are ready as good as you think you are, you will easily keep up with them. Don't try to hard to do so. Ride your own ride.
If you're a passing rider, find a safe place to pass (do not undertake, and please don't take on a blind corner) and be prepared to wait for the group at intersections. Being the first to arrive anywhere doesn't make you a good or cool rider.

End of rant.

[aff-man]

*disclaimer*

I ride for fun. If I want company i post it up here. If you decide to come along you do so at your own risk. If you ride past your abilities and bin it's your fault. Shinanigans and a brisk pace may be set. IT's not showing off it's all part of my riding. Again if these are attempted and you don't have enough self control to know where your own ability ends then it's your fault if you bin.

*end disclaimer*


I can't believe i'm gonna say this but i actually agree with jimmy . I've been turned off from group rides cause my riding style gets frowned apon. Though I let other bikers pass if i am holding them up and I pass people making sure i don't impede thier riding....... I sometimes do push the envelope but not so i don't have an out or feel uncomfortable with my riding so although i wish i could i don't try and keep up with some of the faster guys i ride with. Find someone of my own or sililar pace and stick with them. If there is no-one on the ride that matches that discription then I ride alone and see the rest at each turn off...