KB rides, the ride or the rider?

[robnz]

well i can honestly say i have no need to be at the front. I know im not fast enough and my bike is not fast enough. i'm happy riding at my own pace. I don't even mind being road sweeper in a group ride. i want to enjoy the ride, come home safely and tell my mates about it, holding a drink in my hand and not from a hospital bed or worse not telling the story at all.

[2much]

Crashing isn't limited to just KB rides, I've been on non-KB rides and seen crashes as well..... I'm sure none of those crashes got this over-analysed and caused so much debate.

Unfortunately it's a fact of life that shit happens, get over it. Everyone seems to agree that the responsibility falls directly on the rider themselves and noone else. I can't see how you could blame the organiser/s of the ride, and if someone does attempt to, they need to pull their fucking head out of their arse and wake the fuck up.

[White trash]

Your like a biker demi-god. You do know everything.
Well said.

(You missed me, I havnt crashed on a KB ride but prolly cause Im soft or dont have a licence).

Also missed Quasi, SpankMe, Hayden, V-Twin, Dafe and alot of others. Can't remember everyone sorry mate.

And yeah, no licence will keep you upright.

[Firefight]

A rariety but none the less a mistake.

well spotted, not often we catch him out, tried to rep ya but musta given ya two many lately..


F/F

[bugjuice]

Also missed Quasi, SpankMe, Hayden, V-Twin, Dafe and alot of others. Can't remember everyone sorry mate.

And yeah, no licence will keep you upright.

I haven't crashed yet.. *touches my wood*
it hurts apparently. Don't want to find out.

[RnB Fan]

As a noobie that hasn't been riding, or using this site, for long I have found this thread really interesting. I have only been on one non-KB ride and I was way slower than the other bikes. I realised very early on that I couldn't keep up and so decided not to even try. Personally I put it down to age and life experience. I know that if I fall off it will hurt! I fully support the idea of everybody taking responsibility for themself on the road, ensuring they look after themselves first but also keeping an eye out for those of lesser experience or ability. I look forward to attending my first KB ride sometime in the future and in the meantime will continue to ride on my own to gain experience.

[RiderInBlack]

tried to rep ya but musta given ya two many lately..


F/F

She's right F/F. Rep SMedic on you behalf.

[Firefight]

She's right F/F. Rep SMedic on you behalf.

thanks Doug.

F/F

[Yokai]

People I will definitely ride with again in no particular order-

SpeedMedic Frosty TS Riff-Raff MikeL 6Chris6 Mr Skidz Placid Gareth_d Lucyloo PT (when he gets back) Milky Devil CibbyChick Vifferman Fish(if he's around)

Probably a bunch more... Note that these people have very different styles and skills... some have been riding a lot longer than I and some have been riding about the same. These are people that I have ridden with or have been around and know that they will ride the way they ride and I feel comfortable with them.

If we are going to really be organised about rides, then we should

a) put maps out first on the site
b) state the type of ride as a combination of skill and speed:
Guru Warp
Master Blat
Acolyte Cafe
Neophyte Slow
Innocent Skillz

i.e if you want to go for a medium pace ride but you only want superior riders then you'd look for a Master or Guru Cafe ride...

c) prep a tail-end charlie first (the day before) with the first-aid kit (cellphone), map and a fluoro shirt...

d) on a ride make sure that there is someone who is willing to ride at the slowest pace (or take it in turns)

It's all a bit like hard work and loses a lot of the spontaneity but then if a ride was organised like this some of the newer people (or those who want to stretch themselves) would feel safer perhaps.
Also some would learn that they are not as advanced as they think they are in the grand scheme of things....

*plink plink fizzzzzz*

[Zed]

People I will definitely ride with again in no particular order-

I could list the few riders that I would rather not ride with, but the list of would-ride-withs is probably too long for this post!

If we are going to really be organised about rides, then we should...

...It's all a bit like hard work and loses a lot of the spontaneity but then if a ride was organised like this some of the newer people (or those who want to stretch themselves) would feel safer perhaps.
Also some would learn that they are not as advanced as they think they are in the grand scheme of things....

U been hanging around the Ulysses clubrooms again man? Some of those points you raised are already being exercised on our rides, often we are even accompanied by a real life nurse too (Draco, Keystone)!

I do think if we start enforcing more rules & procedures on KB rides the liberty we currently enjoy to 'do our own thing' will be diminished. Part of why i enjoy KB rides is because they are not too regimented, and most I have ridden with agree!

Perhaps some would feel safer though Yokai...

[NhuanH]

People I will definitely ride with again in no particular order-
...
Mr Skidz
...
I feel comfortable with them.

thanks for the mid-afternoon entertainment dude! Lemme just put my sides back in...

[SPman]

thanks for the mid-afternoon entertainment dude! Lemme just put my sides back in...

...wait til he gets his 600 sprots bike.........

[chickenfunkstar]

People I will definitely ride with again in no particular order-
..........
*plink plink fizzzzzz*

Dude, I do agree with the first part of your post about the people who you would ride with. I'd bet that those riders show courtesy towards you, even though they're most likley a lot faster than you?

I don't however agree about over organising everything else. I don't think that there's a need for maps, specific speed groups and fluro vests etc. Waiting up at major intersections sure. But this could be classed as respecting other riders.

It would seem that quite a few of the senoir members prefer not to do general KB rides. From reading what they have posted, both in this thread and in previous threads, it would seem that their main concern is a lack of courtesy shown to them. This seems a shame, as I sure they've got lots of experiance and knowledge which others could learn from.

Whenver i'm riding in a group I do try to show courtesy and respect to the people that i'm riding with and it is appreciated when it is shown back. I do screw up occasionaly with regards to this, but its usually the exeption rather than the rule.

I can't recall seeing too many posts on this, particularly as opposed to the 'slow down' 'ride your own pace' 'keep speed groups separate' type posts.

[Firefight]

It would seem that quite a few of the senoir members prefer not to do general KB rides. From reading what they have posted, both in this thread and in previous threads, it would seem that their main concern is a lack of courtesy shown to them. This seems a shame, as I sure they've got lots of experiance and knowledge which others could learn from.

can't talk for others, but my point of view, I do like to ride in the smaller groups with selected riders I know and trust, and that ride at my pace (whatever that is)hence the formation of "Fight Club"

However I am also happy to do a ride with newer riders from time to time, these rides are also organised by pm, the reason's for this.

1) Too many newer riders not enuff one on one coaching

2) Sometimes we get faster riders who offer to help are of no help
and only want to show off in front of the newbies.

3) Time factor, the more riders you have, the more fuck arsing around getting
going after a stop(same as most big KB riders)

so even if there are no big posts about these rides, they are still happening or were up till nov last year


In the past when I have put up notices about rides and indicated that it would suit faster riders only I have been critised(sp?) so what the fuck, now we do it mostly by pm or txt

In regards to the big group kb rides, its not because of safety that I don't go, its just the fuck arsing around, and time wasted..

each to there own I guess !

firefight

[Teflon]

you can't blame the person who organizers the ride, they are not there to baby sit.. and like fuck im letting someone tell me what i can and can't do.