Takapuna Racists~~

**oldrider** · 10th January 2006, 15:14

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

I think it is important to remember that prejudice is not just experienced by immigrants, Maori etc........the disabled have a lot more problems, especially disabled children.........I have a disabled Daughter who is 3 this month and has her very own powered wheelchair (she does great doughnuts) and the other week we went into our local PaperShop which, were it not for all the crap on the floor, would be easy for Natalie to negotiate a she wanted to chose a card. Anyway, slight mishap, no damage, I apologised and the geezer who owns the shop told me that I should leave Natalie outside.....now I am a pretty easy going guy but I politely laid into this guy about rights and all that to the extent that he did not even respond and I have never been back since and I was a regular customer......and this was in Devonport!!!!

In a nutshell he just said the wrong thing (and when it comes to Nats I am very defensive) and in this case he deserved what he got and may be more accomodating next time and I guess that we should all think before we deal/ react to a situation on the road and ask ourselves what the benefits are.....at the end of the day we will never see that fuckwit again so does it matter and it is not worth the risk of picking the wrong fuckwit or getting so wound up that we may not ride safely......PICK YOUR BATTLES...

Hi Grahame, I too have a 42yr old son who has a lot of difficulties that prevent him doing many of life's normal things.
He suffers from cerebral palsy and epilepsy and he falls a lot so he has to wear a rugby helmet to protect his head from the terrible injuries he sustains.
You can imagine some of the taunts he has to endure from arsholes of all dimensions.
I am very proud of the way he manages these situations and just gets on with his life and just does the best that he can. Oddly enough he makes excuses for the offenders.
I took him up to the bus the other day and the only seats available were either at the back with some children or beside a woman about his own age, we chose the latter for obvious reasons but she openly showed her disapproval and was quite rude to him all the way to Frankton (Queenstown).
When I phoned him to see how the trip was, he said he really enjoyed it.
I asked him about the woman next to him and his reply was, "she can't help it".
I asked myself, who in this world is really handicapped! sometimes it's not the obvious who have the biggest problems.
The best we can do is to only worry about the things we can control and leave alone those that we can not. Cheers John.

**Grahameeboy** · 10th January 2006, 15:27

Originally Posted by oldrider

The best we can do is to only worry about the things we can control and leave alone those that we can not. Cheers John.

This bit says it all John.........some of us worry about idiots in cars and fail to realise what really matters.

You take care eh?

**Skyryder** · 10th January 2006, 16:00

Originally Posted by TL Rider

Personally I'd blown the buggers a big sloppy kiss and give them the option to stop and have a "yarn" if they so chose.

Yea that realy pisses them off. Use to sometimes pucker up to the boy racers when they mouthed off at me for going so slow driving the yellow shuttles. Had one guy go apoplectic on me once. We were in heavy traffic and my bus was causing problems due to low batterys anyway this car comes racing up on the outside lane. While I am waiting for the lights to change the passenger in the back seat starts giving me the fingers and the bad mouth bit. Now I'm no more that four or five feet away from this dick so I slide the window and pucker my mouth to him. Well did he go off. Now the funny thing is that as he opened the door to do god know what the lights change and his mate takes off like there is no tomorrow. Well this guy goes sliding out the door and lands on his arse, I drive past and say just one word. Cunt!! That was a good day that was.

Skyryder

**MisterD** · 10th January 2006, 16:05

Originally Posted by oldrider

The best we can do is to only worry about the things we can control and leave alone those that we can not.

I think it was Ed Moses (the 400m hurdler who was unbeaten for ten years or so) who said that you shouldn't worry about the stuff you can control, because you can do something about that and you shouldn't worry about the stuff that's outside your control cos there's bugger all you can do to change it....so why worry. (Obviously paraphrasing a bit there).

It frequently amazes me how it's those that have it toughest that can teach the rest of us lucky f-ers the most about how to carry ourselves with dignity.

**Grahameeboy** · 10th January 2006, 16:13

[QUOTE=MisterD]I think it was Ed Moses (the 400m hurdler who was unbeaten for ten years or so) who said that you shouldn't worry about the stuff you can control, because you can do something about that and you shouldn't worry about the stuff that's outside your control cos there's bugger all you can do to change it....so why worry. (Obviously paraphrasing a bit there).

I guess that is how I deal with my situation except when it comes to educating others about disability cause I may be able to change peoples attitudes which I have done when occasion suits....who knows, you just get on with it eh?

**Skyryder** · 10th January 2006, 16:24

Originally Posted by oldrider

The best we can do is to only worry about the things we can control and leave alone those that we can not. Cheers John.

Here lies the path less travelled where the fetters of stress are broken, and walking naked amongst the shackeled those that understand the above are truly free.

Skyryder

**Colapop** · 10th January 2006, 16:30

I have the right to be racist - but only to my family (in laws). They're all muso's and sports people so it can be a little intimidating at family functions. I'm the only person of european decent in the family (they're samoan). At first it was tough but I've stayed true to who I am and have tried not to offend anyone. For the most part they've accepted me. We had a get together recently where the Karaoke machine was blasting again, and they kept on at me to sing (knowing I can't) so I carefully perused the list and came up with this....

"I've got a luverly bunch of coconuts. See them all standing in a row.... "

They laughed as they beat me.....

**Grahameeboy** · 10th January 2006, 16:36

Originally Posted by Colapop

I have the right to be racist - but only to my family (in laws). They're all muso's and sports people so it can be a little intimidating at family functions. I'm the only person of european decent in the family (they're samoan). At first it was tough but I've stayed true to who I am and have tried not to offend anyone. For the most part they've accepted me. We had a get together recently where the Karaoke machine was blasting again, and they kept on at me to sing (knowing I can't) so I carefully perused the list and came up with this....

"I've got a luverly bunch of coconuts. See them all standing in a row.... "

They laughed as they beat me.....

Yep...if you can't beat them get someone else to do it......

**trumpy** · 10th January 2006, 17:15

Grahameeboy and Oldrider; sadly familiar stories in a so called "enlightened" society. I have been involved in the disability scene for nearly 30 years (medical, teaching and therapy) and presently own a rehabilitation engineering company. We have more than 3,500 clients in our files and I could fill a very large book with all the stories of extraordinary courage and determination I have witnessed over the years.... far beyond anything the average person on the street could possibly imagine. I do not have any heroes in life but one or two of my clients come pretty damn close.
This is about ignorance; as the ad says "know me before you....."

**scumdog** · 10th January 2006, 17:16

Originally Posted by White trash

Know what I can't stand? Bloody poms. Coming over here, becoming mobile chicanes on the tracks and good riding roads, stealing all the women. Wish they'd piss of back to the land of the lukewarm beer and leave us kiwis alone.

Not like us Scots eh? Salt of the earth people and had their land stole of 'em by the Poms!!
Wish we had a treaty so we could leech off it for ever!!

**Patrick** · 10th January 2006, 17:45

Originally Posted by Dynamytus50

You are correct, if the kids (who i presume live there and are the lawful occupier) didnt say they wanted him to go there is no offence. In saying that they were kids and he was an adult, a judge may still deem it trespass. It could also be construed as Unlawfully in an enclosed yard as he was not invited on the property.

With the light severity of this offence though i doubt the Court or the Police would give it much time, if any.

Kids are "adults" at 17... I thought they were 18? He was not there unlawfully, once asked to go he would be... U/L in enclosed yard? Don't think so fella... If car drivers can drive into private property to avoid Police doing their duties, and that is not unlawful, how can going on to a property to bollox arsewipes who racially abuse you be unlawful????

**Patrick** · 10th January 2006, 17:47

Originally Posted by Dynamytus50

Unlike the ambulance and fire service it is written into our contract that we can not strike. Thats why we dont get paid overtime, have to buy our own gear and have no legs to stand on.

Traffic units are dedicated traffic, there is three sections in the Police, CIB,GDB (normal cops) and Traffic.

All work semi independant.

Not only is it written into contract, it is also written into law...Police can not strike in any way shape or form...One of the very few occupations where strike action is illegal.

**cowpoos** · 10th January 2006, 18:19

Originally Posted by Dynamytus50

Unlike the ambulance and fire service it is written into our contract that we can not strike. Thats why we dont get paid overtime, have to buy our own gear and have no legs to stand on.

Traffic units are dedicated traffic, there is three sections in the Police, CIB,GDB (normal cops) and Traffic.

All work semi independant.

well more fool you for signing it....maybe next time a whole heap of ya can get together and tell them to get fucked....seriously....whats the worst that can happen....its not like the country has shitloads of cops at its disposal....

and just coz it says you can't strike in your contract doesn't mean you can't....fuck thats in heaps of contracts...nurses doctors etc....doesn't stop them....stand up for what you believe in and stop being a pussy :spudwhat:

**cowpoos** · 10th January 2006, 18:28

Originally Posted by Patrick

Not only is it written into contract, it is also written into law...Police can not strike in any way shape or form...One of the very few occupations where strike action is illegal.

like they would get locked up and charged for it though...........theres lots of stupid laws that arn't enforced in this counrty....