Question

[inlinefour]

Huh???? all we use is digital..who told you that?

At a serious head on, bike versus car. Nadroj was advised that digital pictures could not be used as evidence in court.

[riffer]

Well thats Jimbo600 out of a job then ...

[Deano]

by the side of the road isnt the place to fight that stuff. Use the system, Police Complaints Authority, written complaints to the Minister of Pleece, send it to the media, basically make their lives a living hell.

I am starting to carry a digital camera with me (for snapshots) but it strikes me it would be useful in the situation: take photos of the pleece, the plate, everything.

You should be able to politely ask for the rule you have supposedly broken to be explained, and offer your explanation without fear of being bullied. If you can talk your way out of a ticket on the side of the road then that has to be a better option than the rigmarole of the "system".

These phone camera's are great aren't they ? Awesome evidence (not necessarily court standards) - they will make for many more "caught on tape" type tv shows.

[Lou Girardin]

I doubt a PCA would do much. It sounds a bit weird of a story though..it just doesnt make sense.

Red sticker?? do you mean pink sticker?

Pink, red it's all lower end of the spectrum to me.

[Gremlin]

The letters were all clearly visible, just the border was hidden.

The bike I'm getting has had the plate chopped to just around the letters. Spoke to Chris from Mt Eden to double check it, said there wasn't a problem.

Surely if his setup has passed wof, there shouldn't be a problem?? Thats where it would be picked up...

[spudchucka]

Huh???? all we use is digital..who told you that?

If the authenticity of the digital photos was challenged then they wouldn't be allowed. If the defence has no problem with them then there is no problem with admissability. Your police photographers will most likely use film and digital. The digital photos are usually just for the file (working copies) and the film is the evidential record.

[spudchucka]

The bike I'm getting has had the plate chopped to just around the letters. Spoke to Chris from Mt Eden to double check it, said there wasn't a problem.

Surely if his setup has passed wof, there shouldn't be a problem?? Thats where it would be picked up...

Those chopped plates are fine but the little skinny ones that rally cars use are a no no. You must display the plate issued by LTNZ, no home made ones allowed.

A dodgy plate is no reason to write a vehicle off the road though, there would have to a serious WOF related issue (green sticker) or the vehicle was just plain unsafe for some reason (pink sticker).

I would be interested in hearing the full story though Lou.

[boomer]

If the authenticity of the digital photos was challenged then they wouldn't be allowed. If the defence has no problem with them then there is no problem with admissability. Your police photographers will most likely use film and digital. The digital photos are usually just for the file (working copies) and the film is the evidential record.

no matter what they use i'm sure it'll get 'misplaced' before it gets to court if it so suits

[Lou Girardin]

To be honest the whole story sounds a bit wobbly. You can get a ticket for having your plate not visible but a pink sticker is for an illegal modification more akin to boy racers. Green stickers are for defective vehicles...i have heard of a green sticker on a bike but never a pink...most cops wouldnt know what was legal on a bike and what wasnt.

There must be more to this story, is the guy not telling you something he did to the bike or when he got pulled over?

The last thing, we cant actually sieze the vehicle on a pink sticker or green sticker...you have to commit a certain offence to get it taken. You are also permitted to ride home...so he wouldnt have to leave his 70k bike on the roadside.

Have you got any more detail Lou?

The bike has no safety issues. We built it. It was a pink/red sticker and it was the third time in a short period he'd been pinged for a non-standard plate.
I know it sounds funny, but that's all I know.
Maybe the cops were using the Fish and Chip Act to deal with someone who wasn't subservient enough.