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NZ Road Toll Now Higher Than Last Year
http://xtramsn.co.nz/news/0,,11964-5199379,00.html
Last year's holiday road toll was 11. This year's toll period does not end until 6 am on January 4. The worst day so far has been December 27 with 4 people killed in accidents on New Zealand's roads.
Maybe the Government and the NZ Police will get the message that their policies are not helping improve things. But I guess they will find someone else to blame for it eh?
Those who insist on perfect safety, don't have the balls to live in the real world.
Geriatric hippie
Unlikely.Originally Posted by inlinefour
More likely they will decide their strategies will work if applied more forcefully.
You must remember that none of the powers that be actually have any functional brain cells. This is how they come up with the idea that speed kills, and does so at a prescribed figure, yet driving on the wrong side of the road is relatively safe.
ACC - It's where the Enron accountants all went.
Forum whore
When the Government (and the NZ Police) actually learn to accept responsibility for their policies and put policies into place for the public good rather vote buying then the situation will improve. Yes people are responsible for their own actions but it starts by leadership.
I also wish they would stop calling all vehicle crashes "accidents" - they aren't. There's a fault and a cause that is my book is not an accident.
Forum whore
They will continue to come down with more and more "vigorous " laws with harsher penalties, - until you are fined $300 for just attempting to get in or on a motor vehicle!
Already, there is talk of instant licence loss for red light runners and passing on or near double yellow lines - and be sure there will be no distinction between cars or bikes.........
And others saying penalties will have to be harsher for all manner of offences, "because the average motorist is sick of it"!
How about the "average motorist" having a bit more responsibility for their actions!
You dont train a dog well, by beating it with a stick. This is the philosophy the government is applying to the "average motorist", however! In the long run - totally counter productive!
But then - what would I know!
“- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”
World's fastest Cook Islander
It is to be expected. The quality of the New Zealand lifestyle is slowly diminishing. New Zealanders in general are now working long hours and spending less quality time with family. The alligning of the New Zealand economy with the growing Asian influence is contibuting to this situation. Asian countries consist of a workforce that endures excessive hours with small pay.
In the middle to low income classes, we are now seeing New Zealanders working harder & longer to maintain previous lifestyles.
Many New Zealanders just don't know how to unwind any longer and for some, the personal pace of life is revving high. This reflects on peoples road manners and patience and courtesy on the roads is almost nil existant in some cases.
There were pros and cons for NZ alligning with Asian countries as opposed to the European trade countries. This is one of the cons. New Zelanders are becoming more competitive with each other, including - On the roads.
The government knows this is to be expected. Sad thing is - This provides the government with more excuses to pull more officers from the beat and put them on the roads, It's a vicious cycle that will only worsen! I can't see long term trends showing an improvement in road tolls.
Easily wound up!!
If you always do what you've always done don't be disapointed if you always get what you've always got.
"There must be a one-to-one correspondence between left and right parentheses, with each left parenthesis to the left of its corresponding right parenthesis."
Immature and proud of it.
The definition of incompetence is doing the same thing you've always done but expecting a different result.
NZ's entire Governmental ethos is one of enforcing their edicts through punitive measures.
This is compounded by a desire to choose the cheapest option in any circumstance.
Still, the tougher they get, the more people will run.
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
No8 Wire Extraordinaire
Two Aussies sittin’ on a truck selling Watermelons. They Buy them for $1 each & sell them for $1.
After a while one sez to the other.
“Hey, we’re not making much money”
“Yeah, -Have to get a bigger truck”
Don't you look at my accountant.
He's the only one I've got.
Hardcore Biker
I knew this year was going to be a bad one for the road toll, in the days leading up to Christmas, riding out there with the hoards of cars, speeds were well up, ie, in a 60km zone there were huge packs of cars doing almost 80, yet when they hit the hundred zone the speed was only around 70, with no heavy vehicles in sight to slow things down, tailgating for africa, people running redlights well after they've changed, etc.
Ultimately, it's not the fault of the police, or the government, it's the fault of the people who place safety below punctuality when doing anything, who think that it's ok to ignore the legal limits and go a bit faster to get to the mall sooner so little jimmy gets his Roboraptor, PS2, etc.
Edit: but as has already been said, get some draconian laws in place, that sort out a few of 'em at least.
Forum whore
I'd love to see redlight runners lose their licences on the spot. Hmmmmm, nah make the hung, drawn, and quartered on the spot. I hate anyone who thinks it is okay to race through a redlight. Absolute fuckers. If one hit me and I was still able to get up the po-po would have to arrest me for beating the driver to within an inch of their life.
Just faidin away!
The worst behaviour I have observed on the roads again these holidays is:
A). Failing to keep left.
B). Slow drivers failing to keep left and let faster traffic through.
There are of course a whole lot of other bad behaviours but those two are definitely the most prevalent.
The accent on speed is true in some instances but most of the time it is just bullshit.
Happy New Year all. Cheers John.
Kiwi gone Walkabout
What would happen to the road toll if the speed limit was 10 kmh..you are only as safe as the person coming straight at you.
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Why do they call a head on collision an accident ?.. Why do people say ..I didn't see them,when first you would have to be looking?... Tell the average driver their skills are average or worse and see the reaction...What normally happens if you were cut off and shook your head,the other person would probably give you the finger ???... Unfortunately things will become tougher as the attitudes and driving skills get worse,the majority will be governed by rules for the minority...Doh..we already are?
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Never forget what the Two Ronnies said.... Death can be Fatal.
Forum whore
That can't be right. According to the poll on www.stuff.co.nz yesterday, most NZers think it's "speeding" that's the most dangerous thing on NZ roads at holiday time.
I agree with you 100% there oldrider.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
.....your time is coming
What is pretty obvious is that if the speed limits were increased, the incident (thought I had better not call it 'accident') rate would not increase in the same way that it would not decrease if the speed limit was say reduced to 10kph which confirms that the Govt's blitz on speed is revenue based.....would be interesting to know which of those drivers involved had previous speeding convictions and which didn't.
In Northampton, UK they do not have speed cameras and have seen road toll reduce compared with those County's that do have cameras.
The Govt will tell you that 30% of all Rta's involve speed but as proven by Bike mags in UK if you take off "hit rear cause I was driving too fast" "didn't see speeding motorist", you end up with just 3% of 'incidents' involving actual excessive speed.
Same as 30% of all 'incidents' involve alcohol....on the face of it sounds pretty bad until you realise that 70% of 'incidents' involve sober drivers!!!!
Stats and more stats.......
.....your time is coming
Nah Jimbo, the most dangerous thing on the road at holiday times are 'cages'......
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