Southern KBs heading to Glenorchy

[FlyingDutchMan]

I was quite impressed with the riding behavious of all in our group. I have gone on group rides with other people and been surprized that someone didn't bin it. I did see someone get lights flashed at him though

[dangerous]

But there was one thing i must comment on & maybe i'll rattle a few cages from them when they get back & possibly see this, but the were all packed together with no real safety buffer between any of the bikes & at a distance they actually looked like 2 trucks coming towards me

Now my 1st thought to this thread was that you TWR are trying to get a reaction..... but no maybe you did see something, but posting it like this is bullshit.

I saw no one do any dumb shit at all... look at the pics that have been posted and you will see that there are no close following, gezz, how about you come for a ride with us before making such comments.... if we were this close then I asure you ther would be a reason for it a situation that you are not explaining to well.

I consider myself to be one of the more 'dangerous' riders in that group and I only had one move mentioned to me and it was a fair call.

I am a critacal bastard at the best of times as far as riding goes... and I have to say all riders impressed me.

[Kickaha]

Now my 1st thought to this thread was that you TWR are trying to get a reaction..... but no maybe you did see something, but posting it like this is bullshit.

Why is it bullshit? he posted about what he saw and you're just being a grumpy cunt because you like to think you are a good rider and can't stand criticism

gee this must be what those people who crossed the centreline you got up felt like

[dangerous]

Why is it bullshit? he posted about what he saw and you're just being a grumpy cunt because you like to think you are a good rider and can't stand criticism

gee this must be what those people who crossed the centreline you got up felt like

yeah what ever......


Have I posted pics of us riding on the wrong side of the rd?
Were we riding irresponsibly?
were we actually doing what TWR says the crossing the center line people were doing what I was commenting on, theres no proof we were, and I am saying there will be a reason that TWR thinks we were riding to close

Have you read the comments from the other riders in our group.... or are you just being an arse cos you are good at it???

[Kickaha]

yeah what ever......

your signature says it all really

[Silage]

Good call TWR, it is OK to say it as you saw it.

There were a few occasions when the group bunched up a bit, but these were brief and rare and always occur in group riding to some extent. Most of the time we were staggered with sufficient gaps. I only saw one oncoming car flash someone after an overtaking manoever and thought that there was no issue really. Once onto Thompsons Track the speed picked up a "little" and everyone was well strung out (in the proper sense). I was near the back most of the time (more comfortable there) and kept near Cal who I have ridden a bit with. Didn't see anything that I though was dodgy. What gets up my nose on group rides is people ripping past each other. This increases the bike to bike danger immensely (imho), but there was none of that on this ride.

Overall I was totally impressed with the riding behaviour of all, including idb in stealth mode .

[T.W.R]

well some spineless person Bad repped me over this thread, and looking at the recent posts its easy to pick who aye Dangerous
and if you had fully read the original posts properly you would have taken note that it wasn't aimed at being dig at anyone personally

now if i'd been prepared for what i did see i would have taken a picture just as i did when i saw R1aaron & his bike on moorhouse ave just after he'd painted it. and the picture would have varified what i saw.

now as Rashika said in her post/reply she never rides the front of the group, but the lead bunch of bikes were so close together i thought she was at the front, thats how tightly packed you lot were, the lead pack were that close together that it (as i stated) looked like 2 trucks from a distance.

the reason i posted the thread originally wasn't ( as i said) a dig at the group but more so to highlight a bit of roadcraft especially when as in the circumstances on a tour or travelling to rallies. I travel the main south between home & ChCh 5-6 days a week and have been for the last 16yrs & have seen some horrific accidents & have attended to some of those accidents. and for an instance even the bloody bikies ( roadknights/devil's henchmen) don't even travel that tightly bunched when their running back & forth between timaru & ChCh.

And Dangerous just one thing as a return to your childish red rep, if you are as Rashika said, the predominant ride leader on various events you need to start thinking more of the group safety than your own ego, having spent time in different motorcycle groups the effective people in a group ride are the ride leader & the tailend charlie!
realistically the only ones in the bunch that were riding at considerate distances were Jimmie,ZZR & the fella on the red GPZ as they were all slightly distanced from the rest of the pack & riding in a staggered formation.

and if you's had been riding at considerate spacings then you would have seen me flash my lights & wave as yous went past.

[T.W.R]

yeah what ever......


Have I posted pics of us riding on the wrong side of the rd?
Were we riding irresponsibly?
were we actually doing what TWR says the crossing the center line people were doing what I was commenting on, theres no proof we were, and I am saying there will be a reason that TWR thinks we were riding to close

Have you read the comments from the other riders in our group.... or are you just being an arse cos you are good at it???

OK your starting to piss me off Dangerous, read thing thoroughly before you rant, i didn't once mention you were riding over the centre line, what i did say was , if someone had gone down for any reason, the only escape routes for the following bikes would either have been into the path of on-coming traffic or into the scrub on the side of the road & trust me the proxemics of the lead group would have caused that

you all had that section of the main south to yourselves when you all went past, & thats what i couldn't understand, KMs of free space why bunch up into a wolfpack

[dangerous]

well some spineless person Bad repped me over this thread, and looking at the recent posts its easy to pick who aye Dangerous

What the hell are you on about...... are you not a senior member?? (can you not see who posted you the red rep???)

I DID and I am glad that I did... I do not consider myself spinless.... so please explain your RETURNED RED REP... YOU red reping me back JUST cos I RED reped you.... is that not childish?????
You have 566 posts you should be able to see me, I assumed you were a senior member (200 posts is what is needed)

if your going to red rep do it properly & show yourself, and before your start putting the hackles up & being defensive read thing properly first next time. T.W.R

BTW I never sign rep as I thought all could see like I can see yours.

now if i'd been prepared for what i did see i would have taken a picture

How can you accurately see anything when doing 100k towards us traveling at 100k???????

(as i stated) looked like 2 trucks from a distance.

well doh... we were staggered so you would see 2 headlights, and from a distance you could tell how many mm there was between us huh???

And Dangerous just one thing as a return to your childish red rep, if you are as Rashika said, the predominant ride leader on various events you need to start thinking more of the group safety than your own ego, having spent time in different motorcycle groups the effective people in a group ride are the ride leader & the tailend charlie!

Ok... now this makes me laugh, YOU dont offend me with such comments. I know how I ride and those that do and have ridden with me know how I ride.... so these words of yours are like water of a ducks back...... anything else you would like to share???

Ps: I red reped you because I and I alone did not AGREE with what you were saying, that is a neg in my books, fun isent it

PPS: Anyone on this trip if they have any qualms with me not being a responsible leader, spit it out now... I've got big shoulders

[dangerous]

OK your starting to piss me off Dangerous, read thing thoroughly before you rant, i didn't once mention you were riding over the centre line

Settle down fella...... That is a quote from KICKAHA's comments NOT yours

[T.W.R]

What the hell are you on about...... are you not a senior member?? (can you not see who posted you the red rep???)

I DID and I am glad that I did... I do not consider myself spinless.... so please explain your RETURNED RED REP... YOU red reping me back JUST cos I RED reped you.... is that not childish?????
You have 566 posts you should be able to see me, I assumed you were a senior member (200 posts is what is needed)

BTW I never sign rep as I thought all could see like I can see yours.


How can you accurately see anything when doing 100k towards us traveling at 100k???????


well doh... we were staggered so you would so 2 or so headlights, and from a distance you could tell how many mm there was between us huh???

Ok... now this makes me laugh, YOU dont offend me with such comments. I know how I ride and those that do and have ridden with me know how I ride.... so these words of yours are like water of a ducks back...... anything else you would like to share???

Ps: I red reped you because I and I alone did not AGREE with what you were saying, that is a neg in my books, fun isent it

PPS: Anyone on this trip if they have any qualms with me not being a responsible leader, spit it out now... I've got big shoulders

yeah yeah what ever go beat your chest by yourself

& FYI its 200 post & 125 days ( which is about a week away)
ha not just sign your reps ? i do i don't have anything to hide.


as for accuracy of seeing things DOH that piece of road is over 3km long from where it straightens to the Bankside dip, plenty of time to judge what is to be seen & then as we passed you were no further than 3m away so thats fairly close i think do you ?


And don't try instigate a slinging match, all i did was put something on screen that i'd say to your face anyhow I wasn't trying to offend you & theres no need for you to get all defensive.

and as for the reps i couldn't really give a flying fuck they aren't going to effect my life in any from or instance, but by the way i recieved more greens for the thread & funnily enough your the only red

[manuboy]

There were a few occasions when the group bunched up a bit, but these were brief and rare and always occur in group riding to some extent.

This is about the only common sense comment on this page so far. Surely.

At least 6 of the riders in that group that i know of have 10+ years riding and their roadcraft is pretty much beyond reproach. I've ridden with all of them and to be fair the pace is sometimes a bit ebb and flow that results in closing up until everybody slots back.

Thats partially why i slowed up on even the day group rides - maintaining the concentration and watching out for everybody else was lessening my enjoyment - but it's a still a good safe bunch to ride in - as a bottom line you can count the indidents thay've had in the last couple of years on one hand...

But hey - there should always be room for a little constructive criticism AYE D!

[dangerous]

But hey - there should always be room for a little constructive criticism AYE D!

Fuck yes

yeah yeah what ever go beat your chest by yourself

LMFAO

& FYI its 200 post & 125 days ( which is about a week away)
ha not just sign your reps ? i do i don't have anything to hide.

neither do I.... LISTEN UP EVERBODY I DANGEROUS RED REPED WTF... opps I MEAN TWR

And don't try instigate a slinging match

Why not.... bring it on man.... I'm just warming up, you do relise I'm a ginga dont ya

and as for the reps i couldn't really give a flying fuck they aren't going to effect my life in any from or instance, but by the way i recieved more greens for the thread & funnily enough your the only red

well thats not apparent in you returning RED rep

Well good on ya for the greens..... ohh hang on you dont give a flying fuk do ya

[T.W.R]

Fuck yes

LMFAO

neither do I.... LISTEN UP EVERBODY I DANGEROUS RED REPED WTF... opps I MEAN TWR

Why not.... bring it on man.... I'm just warming up, you do relise I'm a ginga dont ya

well thats not apparent in you returning RED rep

Well good on ya for the greens..... ohh hang on you dont give a flying fuk do ya

fuck your childish cunt and if you can't stand a bit of constructive criticism, grow up

[dangerous]

fuck your childish cunt and if you can't stand a bit of constructive criticism, grow up

hehehehehe.......... its not me loosing my rag and name calling TWR

MAN read my reply to Manuboy...... FUCK YES I love constructive criticism.... and I dont wana grow up Mr NAME CALLER

Hey I GTG to bed... can we continue this tomorrow please, you are fun to play with