Another proper England rant...

[Posh Tourer :P]

if you wanted to pluralise, it would be "you all say that to yourselves". Misplaced word to pluralise. As it is, "you say that to all yourself" could be correct if a little odd.

[idb]

if you wanted to pluralise, it would be "you all say that to yourselves".

Modern wording could be "youse say that to yourselves".
I'm not too sure on the spelling of 'youse' though.
It's shorter and modern.
It's a living language after all.

[Posh Tourer :P]

Or even "yous fullas all say dat to yorselfs"

[Wolf]

Technically speaking, there is only one of him - so would that make it "....all yourselfs" ??

I got the impression that SD was inferring he had multiple personalities.

[MD]

Man, it has taken ages to read this from start to finish. Thank you MSTRS for kicking this off. I needed somewhere to let off steam on this subject. Umm, you might want to alter the title though to English rant.
So, can we get back to the real problem of piss poor grammar and spelling which is hacking me off.
It's bloody annoying having your time wasted because you have to re-read a post to decipher what the writer was trying to say. Reading a post where some twit can't put together more than four words that make sense just kills the flow of the thread and you lose interest. Not to mention that the mental picture you form of the writer would scare the Hillbillies in Deliverance.
Some people on here really need to meet Mr Apostrophe and Mrs Comma and see how they improve their lives through better understanding.
I started to post a dig at someone on another thread today by repeating their post with corrections highlighed in red, but the effort became too much. And they would probably get all upset at the personal attack.
How can people not know the difference between your and you're, brake and break or sale and sail. What the hell is 'im' to start a sentence (I'm, by the way) The list goes on.
If you can't post on an English website in English, that people can easily follow, then piss off and see if the Japanese can make better sense of your typing.
Cheers, I feel better now but there is no solution.

[boomer]

Man, it has taken ages to read this from start to finish. Thank you MSTRS for kicking this off. I needed somewhere to let off steam on this subject. Umm, you might want to alter the title though to English rant.
So, can we get back to the real problem of piss poor grammar and spelling which is hacking me off?
It's bloody annoying having your time wasted because you have to re-read a post to decipher what the writer was trying to say. Reading a post where some twit can't put together more than four words that make sense just kills the flow of the thread and you lose interest. Not to mention that the mental picture you form of the writer would scare the Hillbillies in Deliverance.
Some people on here really need to meet Mr Apostrophe and Mrs Comma and see how they improve their lives through better understanding.
I started to post a dig at someone on another thread today by repeating their post with corrections highlighted in red, but the effort became too much. And they would probably get all upset at the personal attack.
How can people not know the difference between your and you're, brake and break or sale and sail. What the hell is 'im' to start a sentence (I'm, by the way) the list goes on.
If you can't post on an English website in English, that people can easily follow, then piss off and see if the Japanese can make better sense of your typing.
Cheers, I feel better now but there is no solution.

Japanese flag week?

[MD]

Japanese flag week?

You lost me there Boomer somewhere in the translation? Might have to tell you to 'be quite in the cheap seats'
Just read another cock up. 'hes bringing them in...' (intended message was 'He's bringing ...' Instead we get some new name for a bloke called Hes. Must be a friend of Les Mills or Des O'Connor. Get it right people

[boomer]

lol MD. You be calm and i'll be quite

Japanese flag week = rag week!?

[MSTRS:Me]

Japanese flag week?

What the hell is 'im' to start a sentence (I'm, by the way) the list goes on.
What the hell is 'im' to start a sentence (I'm, by the way)? The list goes on.
corrected

[MikeL]

Who would have thought that a thread on the English language (in a motorcycle forum!) could arouse such passionate debate? Or is it still the silly season, with all you people sitting bored at work?
As a linguist of long standing I had come to accept the immutable indifference of the average kiwi to all matters of language (his own and others'). Perhaps I was wrong...

[Ixion]

It is at least less damaging to our reputation as mean tough bikers tahn the thread on lace doilies. Or the one on the correct way to make a cup of tea.

[idb]

It is at least less damaging to our reputation as mean tough bikers tahn the thread on lace doilies. Or the one on the correct way to may a cup of tea.

What about "To Pee Or Not To Pee"?

[idb]

Man, it has taken ages to read this from start to finish. Thank you MSTRS for kicking this off. I needed somewhere to let off steam on this subject. Umm, you might want to alter the title though to English rant.
So, can we get back to the real problem of piss poor grammar and spelling which is hacking me off.
It's bloody annoying having your time wasted because you have to re-read a post to decipher what the writer was trying to say. Reading a post where some twit can't put together more than four words that make sense just kills the flow of the thread and you lose interest. Not to mention that the mental picture you form of the writer would scare the Hillbillies in Deliverance.
Some people on here really need to meet Mr Apostrophe and Mrs Comma and see how they improve their lives through better understanding.
I started to post a dig at someone on another thread today by repeating their post with corrections highlighed in red, but the effort became too much. And they would probably get all upset at the personal attack.
How can people not know the difference between your and you're, brake and break or sale and sail. What the hell is 'im' to start a sentence (I'm, by the way) The list goes on.
If you can't post on an English website in English, that people can easily follow, then piss off and see if the Japanese can make better sense of your typing.
Cheers, I feel better now but there is no solution.

Welcome fellow pedant.
I'm not particularly well-educated but it seems to me (and, as I'm not particularly well-educated this carries no weight whatsoever) that, in the main, people in previous generations always left school knowing how to spell and read even if they hadn't learnt anything else in their time there.
NZ used to pride itself in having practically no illiteracy - it surely can't claim that now.

[MisterD]

It is at least less damaging to our reputation as mean tough bikers tahn the thread on lace doilies. Or the one on the correct way to make a cup of tea.

...and here's me thinking it was a conscious effort to portray ourselves as erudite knights of the road! Mean, tough bikers? Not me, I've got a scooter so I must be ghey.

[Wolf]

NZ used to pride itself in having practically no illiteracy - it surely can't claim that now.

Not when you see a person accepted into a Journalism course at a tertiary institute whose handwriting is childish and has no idea of spelling, punctuation, grammar and common idiomatic phrases (so tried "rendring them fonetikly")

I guess he was aiming to become an Editor - I'm sure the Waikato Slimes would snap him up if they didn't already have a person in charge of randomising the positioning of letters, punctuation and (in extreme cases) words...