Take off the badge Sherriff

[Skyryder]

The irony in that statement Lou is simply painful, can't you feel it?

Its good to see that you realise you made a big enough twat out of yourself to try and retract, but were all the other thousand or so posts you've made ranting and raving about cops jokes as well, or just this one?

Its hard to tell sometimes Louis.

No it's not. Just think of it as ENHANCED ENTERTAINMENT I do.


Skyryder

[igor]

Scumdog has skin thicker than Helen Clarks, I don't think its actually possible to offend him.

It's just getting a bit tired Lou, some cops are arseholes, I know I have to work with some, funny thing is they all seem to leave the job or end up on motorways. It's a fact of life and it happens in every profession.

I don't know what has fired you up against cops but at least admit that you have some kind of grudge, one or two posts might be a joke or someone who has just had a bad day, but when almost every of your posts are in the same vein its kinda obvious.

"Scumdog has skin thicker than Helen Clarks" this should read "Scumdog is thicker than Helen."

"some cops are arseholes" yip this me, but only on a bad day and everyone has a bad day.

and for hose that didn't know Lou used to be a Terrific cop many years ago. He left for some reason only he nose, and like many appears to be _____

on on a different point, some people can't accept my sense of humuor. yes i do have one, but it can be a little hard to read. Email and bulletin boards show no emotion or tone or facial expressions so things can be read many ways, usually the wrong way.

please stop bagging the fuzz as i can't sleep at night

[In The Breeze]

Yes there are two types of driving laws. No correction. There's only one, the one for us and none for the police. They can do what they like knowing that unless there is a 'consequence' of their actions they are imune from prosecution unlike the rest of us.

Have to agree for the most part Skyrider but it's the way it is therefore its up to us to find a way around their bollix.

[scumdog]

Yes there are two types of driving laws. No correction. There's only one, the one for us and none for the police. They can do what they like knowing that unless there is a 'consequence' of their actions they are imune from prosecution unlike the rest of us.

Skyryder

Sounds like the general public - do what they like up until the consequence looms, - then cry and say 'not fair, not my fault'......

[scumdog]

"Scumdog has skin thicker than Helen Clarks" this should read "Scumdog is thicker than Helen."

Got to agree - otherwise it would be ME that was Prime Minister!

Now straighten the hump on your back and get back down to the dungeons where you belong.....,

[spudchucka]

Yes there are two types of driving laws. No correction. There's only one, the one for us and none for the police. They can do what they like knowing that unless there is a 'consequence' of their actions they are imune from prosecution unlike the rest of us.

Skyryder

I'm afraid you are totally wrong. There are many Inspectors and Superintendants that spend every waking hour looking for staff to charge over any little driving misshap. I sometimes wonder if it is part of their performance assessments, (how many staff they have charged, disciplined or booted out of the job).

[Lou Girardin]

I'm afraid you are totally wrong. There are many Inspectors and Superintendants that spend every waking hour looking for staff to charge over any little driving misshap. I sometimes wonder if it is part of their performance assessments, (how many staff they have charged, disciplined or booted out of the job).

And therein lies your current problems. But it's nothing new, there's always been
supervisors like that. There's one still in the Motorways unit.

[Marmoot]

and who supervise the supervisors? and who supervise the supervisors of the supervisors?

Eventually, it comes down to public as the ultimate supervisors. Alas, they cannot do anything unless a million of them becomes witnesses.

[Lou Girardin]

and who supervise the supervisors? and who supervise the supervisors of the supervisors?

Eventually, it comes down to public as the ultimate supervisors. Alas, they cannot do anything unless a million of them becomes witnesses.

A lot of the old hands were induced to leave so they could pay for INCIS.
Or at least not persuaded to stay.
The public is less likely to forgive and forget cop transgressions now. That's one reason for the angst.

[Finn]

I'm afraid you are totally wrong. There are many Inspectors and Superintendants that spend every waking hour looking for staff to charge over any little driving misshap. I sometimes wonder if it is part of their performance assessments, (how many staff they have charged, disciplined or booted out of the job).

Well now you know how we feel cause that's exactly what you're doing to us.

[Finn]

A lot of the old hands were induced to leave so they could pay for INCIS.

And with it a lot of experience and knowledge. Yeah that INCIS project was a complete stuff up. Why on earth would the Police want to develop their own half assed system when there were proven, out of box solutions already implemented around the world? And of course IBM just took their (our) money.

The consequences of INCIS were and still are enormous.

[Lou Girardin]

Well now you know how we feel cause that's exactly what you're doing to us.

But that's different, because it's for our own good.

[Skyryder]

I'm afraid you are totally wrong. There are many Inspectors and Superintendants that spend every waking hour looking for staff to charge over any little driving misshap. I sometimes wonder if it is part of their performance assessments, (how many staff they have charged, disciplined or booted out of the job).

Any stats on this? Or or they given an option to resign?

And why have I not heard a thing from Road Watch about the bike cop going through a red light? The cop that cut off Lou seemed pretty confident that there would be no recriminations because of his actions.

Skyryder

[spudchucka]

Any stats on this? Or or they given an option to resign?

And why have I not heard a thing from Road Watch about the bike cop going through a red light? The cop that cut off Lou seemed pretty confident that there would be no recriminations because of his actions.

Skyryder

No, I don't have any stats. Its not something that gets made available to those at the bottom of the food chain. However, I have many collegues that have been shafted over shit that most people wouldn't even get pulled over for.

A cop who has a minor ding in a patrol car has to wait around for the file to go through the heirachy, (usually to Inspector level at least), before they know if they will face charges, then there is the standard PCA and internal discipline to follow. A civilian in the same circumstances wouldn't be scrutinised by anything more than a beat constable who often times isn't going to bother charging somebody with careless for minor stuff simply because of the additional work load it would cause them.

Cops facing serious charges are sometimes encouraged to resign, other times they decide for themselves that it is the best option for them in the circumstances. A minor offence like careless wouldn't normally cost the cop their job.

I can't offer any kind of an answer for the rest of your post.

[Skyryder]

Well Spud I do sympathise. Over officious bosses are a pain in the arse in any employment. It's just from where most of the public sits we see the opposite. Most public statments (that's about all we can go on) by police concerning inappropiatge behavour are muffled by legal jargon or else they make excuses for their collegues. I hope you don't want examples as I'm having trouble enough finding a site with the LTA Amendments at present.

Skyryder