A question for the cops.

[Indoo]

I thought we were innocent untill proven guilty in this country and here you are acting like Wyat Earp because you saw a guy drinking beer in his car (a stationary car). Yup I know I will provoke the old "but Im saving lives" and "Ive seen too much gurgling blood before" story but acting like judge, jury and executioner is not the way for anyone to behave (especialy for a rozzer). If you want to drag drunken pricks out of thier cars and provoke a scrap in the premise that they may drive (and gloat about your bravery here) then you have chosen the wrong profession. Do it right or don't do it at all..

So what would have done, turned a blind eye and just hope the guy doesn't kill anyone on his way home?

Just remember it might be you ior your family this guy collects on his way home, all Marty did was do the guy and everyone else on the road that night a huge favour.

[KATWYN]

so to those who support me, and to those who don't.

[EZAS]

Yeah but atleast drunk people tend to get over confident so your garunteed a good race down the motorway.

Last night some idiot was trying to race me (sothern motorway) in a Dimante, after a few close calls (i'm talking inch's) with the walls on off ramps, I decided to edge off and give him some space (as not to provoke anyone getting killed). He didn't slow down, so f*ck it.

Would you class speeding the same as you class drink driving?
Should I have waited till he was at the lights then taken his keys off him and said, "you can pick them up from the police station".

Taking someones keys doesn't resolve a situation, it only prolongs it (he's gonna do it next week). If you were really concerned about the matter, you should have delt him a good lesson. Smashed the sh*t out of him, shown him some pictures of some dead mates killed in Drunken accidents, then told him if he does it again you'll personally crash hit nuts in a vice (or something of similar value).

[terbang]

So what would have done, turned a blind eye and just hope the guy doesn't kill anyone on his way home?

Just remember it might be you ior your family this guy collects on his way home, all Marty did was do the guy and everyone else on the road that night a huge favour.

I don't take the law into my own hands though this scene would have appeared to have looked bad and there is a high probability that marty was right (being a cop and all). Though it might have been completely innocent and a guy gets victimised by an off duty cop who is stuck with a (very narrow) mindset. If I had seen similar and had alarm bells ringing then I would have rung the Rozzers to do the job they are paid to do.

Yup dead right about the family there mate and it might be some twit hurtling around a corner (well above the speed limit) on his busa out of control because his tyre is down to the cords thats cuts my family car in half.. Hope he doesn't mind if somoene removes his bike keys (to save som souls) next time they see him out on his bike in such a poor state..
Empty the stones out of your pockets before entering glasshouses remember you are/were a cop and need to be clean before you start throwing your weight around like a cop. Me I'm a nobody and a hoon from way back, admit to riding my motorcycle way above the speed limit (though I responsibly maintain it) and have a dislike for cops that lead two lives in and out of uniform.
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[marty]

i'm not a cop.

[Indoo]

I don't take the law into my own hands though this scene would have appeared to have looked bad and there is a high probability that marty was right (being a cop and all).

It's not about taking the law into your own hand's, its about taking the keys off someone you know is pissed as hell, and you know the cops are too busy to be able to stop pissed as hell driver from killing someone. You have a responsibility to intervene as a member of this society, not to lay back like a pussy and say I don't care its a job for the cops.

Though it might have been completely innocent and a guy gets victimised by an off duty cop who is stuck with a (very narrow) mindset. If I had seen similar and had alarm bells ringing then I would have rung the Rozzers to do the job they are paid to do.

Yep the guy just happened to be absolutely pissed in a public place, with a crate of beer and his keys in the Ignition. It doesn't take Steven Hawkings to work out that said driver might attempt to drive home while pissed.

Yup dead right about the family there mate
etc etc

You can't even begin to compare the two, theres a huge difference between someone whose pissed as a twat and is out to kill someone and a rider whose rear tire is slightly bald and doesn't know it yet.

Martys not a cop, he used to be, but I would hope that anyone would have the balls to remove a drunken shit from the roads. Its fkin common sense, if your comfortable riding the same roads as some twat whose so pissed he's pissing beside his car then good on you. I just hope we can charge the Bill to your family.

I would say kudos to Marty and less kudos to apathetic pricks .

[Idrumm]

Well done Marty, would have done the same myself , instant result Keys out he goes nowhere, such a simple action, (all possabilties nullified)

Imagine how it would feel if you had let it go and the barstard wipes out a young family, makes taking the keys out seem so easy.

As for the anti Marty crew pull ya heads in boys you no ya wrong don't ya boys.

[Scouse]

Well done Marty, would have done the same myself ,

Imagine how it would feel if you had let it go and the barstard wipes out a young family, makes taking the keys out seem so easy.

As for the anti Marty crew pull ya heads in boys you no ya wrong don't ya boys.

when you pull ya nose out of his Arse

[Idrumm]

when you pull ya nose out of his Arse

I said my piece sony boy, thats it take it or leave it.

[Scouse]

I said my piece sony boy, thats it take it or leave it.

Can't spell eh Brown nose

[Big Chim]

he then said my name, and i realised that i had pinged him fro drink driving about 4 years ago (must have left an impression huh?). i locked his car, and told him he could pick up his keys from the station in the morning.

what a cunt i am.

Good on ya Marty, He was blatantly cut and in a position where no one wants to meet a person off there face and thats behind the wheel.

Good Job

[Sniper]

Typical, no wonder the police have such a hard time and a few have bad attitudes. Read over the thread and just see all the bloody yapping and biting. Its bloody funny IMO.

Marty, I think you did good. Thats my opinion because I would prefer someone off the road than driving into me. Maybe all those that are getting their hackles up about it have done it before and they don't like the idea of it. Opinions might or might not change when its a friend or relatives blood on the ground and the drunk you saw in his car 5 minutes ago leaning against a post.

Good pissing contest

[Fatjim]

He took his keys, told him where to find them, he didn't need them. He got off lightly.

I've done the same, saw a drunk driver in the Hutt some years ago and after ringing the cops and then following him for 10 mins waiting for them to arrive I stopped behind him at the next lights and took his keys off him. He was pissed as a chook and he was lucky not to have an accident.

BTW a drunk wiped out 2 cyclists from the rear in the Hutt late last year in front of a work mate. The c8nt just kept on driving. I'd of run him into a lamppost if I'd been there.

and off the record, I reckon it's open season on drunk drivers. The public venting at them is going to be more effective than policing. This "don't take the law into your owns hands" is bullshit, the public taking action will actually change things.

So I'm with Marty, and the rest can f!@# off.

[hobdar]

i agree with Marty and take the dickheads keys, there is no way i could live with myself if the guy drives out of the car park and he ran over a little kid and his dad...and i could have done something to prevent it....

if we whinge and moan about the attitude of cops towards bikers maybe its time we as a collective group look at our attitude first and see if what we are doing actually draws attention to all bikers...

[terbang]

Take a deeper look her guys, a lot miss my point. I would have the balls to get that guy off the road by dobbing him in and would have no problem with loking him in the eye across a court room and testifying against him (have done so before). We don't live in the Wild west anymore and whilst I commend martys intentions, his actions I condemn. We all so easily assume that the guy was pissed and going to drive pissed and I also read all the emotive crap added in here for impact. Whats to say that the guy had made a decision not to drive because he was pissed and was waiting for his missus to come and pick him up..? Or what if it was his first beer and he was way below the limit..? Judgement call or not it is only our duty to dob them in and let the appropriate (designated) authority deal with it. Do you grab a guy and accuse him of intending rape when he is standing on th side of the road, pissed and staring at a solo women..? None of us, including marty, are paid or empowered to make such a judgement call though it is our duty to alert trouble to those who are meant to deal with it (its very easy nowadays)..
I also have a law enforcement background (not a Rozzer though) my colleagues and I were furiously puristic in our approach to the role (you have to be) and practised what we preached. I am quite happy that others are now doing it and leave it to them to make the judgement calls.