Superstitions?

[kro]

Ahem, thread title says "superstitions", not "attacking one and others beliefs/faiths". Zed's a good man, leave him be.

I am not superstitious at all, the likelihood of stuff happening as a result of ladders, cats, Black Fridays etc, is directly proportional to the likelihood of things happening as a result of you reading your horoscope, i.e, both are a crock of poo poos in my book, because both have a non existent hit ratio in my life.

Horoscopes/astrology/numerology is something you best not get mixed up in imo, if you let someone else tell you how your day's gonna go, you have lost the battle right then and there.

[zadok]

Superstition, although very real to some people, is phewey. I know some people who always seem to be getting 'bad luck', but it is only because of their lack of forthought and planning. Very few things always go right in life, you just have to have an alternative way of dealing with things, should something not go to plan.
From a Christian point of view, I don't go in for supertition either. As pointed out, a lot of superstition comes from paganism, not Chistianity. However, that is not to say that 'religion' hasn't played its part here and there. Note, I said 'religion', not 'Christianity'.
An interesting scripture regarding this is Paul's obeservation of the Athenian's, Acts 17: 22 "Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too supersticious"(Strongs 1174: Religious)

ps. this thead was inevitably going to go this way.

[ManDownUnder]

The only one reliably affecting me is bananas on a fishing trip..

little buggers LOL

[Zed]

That's Maoritanga,at lest try to get that much right.
And as for my "attack" I simpliy stated my belief,I didn't call you any silly names like you did to me with your opening post.But then that seems to be becoming more and more your style doesn't it.
There's a lot of christians on this site Zed,none of them have attacked me or anybody else, like you have a number times.
My views on your faith are just that "about the faith" not about you,so keep your personal attacks to your self.

Hello little fishy, swimmin in the shallows! lol

[myvice]

I'm not superstitious caus its bad luck!

Get a bit anti when people say things like "What about your family if you get killed?"
Usually respond with "And what about yours when you accidentally drown while scrubbing your teeth?"
Good/bad luck happens, you might win lotto, you might get cancer, things will happen... they might be good, they might not.
You are riding along, shit happens and you crash. But you walk away un-hurt...
You where lucky not to be hurt, but un-lucky to crash.
You get paid out from insurance, walk into your bike shop and they offer you the bike of your dreams at an ex-demo rate and thro in some gear.
Now you where lucky to crash...
It depends on your out look on life, got a flat tyre? Late for work? Maybe a truck fails to stop at a red light and you would have been there if you where on time?
Luck is a perceived state.

[Motoracer]

I'm not superstitious caus its bad luck!

Get a bit anti when people say things like "What about your family if you get killed?"
Usually respond with "And what about yours when you accidentally drown while scrubbing your teeth?"
Good/bad luck happens, you might win lotto, you might get cancer, things will happen... they might be good, they might not.
You are riding along, shit happens and you crash. But you walk away un-hurt...
You where lucky not to be hurt, but un-lucky to crash.
You get paid out from insurance, walk into your bike shop and they offer you the bike of your dreams at an ex-demo rate and thro in some gear.
Now you where lucky to crash...
It depends on your out look on life, got a flat tyre? Late for work? Maybe a truck fails to stop at a red light and you would have been there if you where on time?
Luck is a perceived state.

Excelent! I like seeing veiws from everyone's perspective and what you say is true as well..

[Jackrat]

The only one reliably affecting me is bananas on a fishing trip..

little buggers LOL

Ok ya' got me.
I use that one as well:slap:

[LXS]

I'm not superstitious caus its bad luck!

Get a bit anti when people say things like "What about your family if you get killed?"
Usually respond with "And what about yours when you accidentally drown while scrubbing your teeth?"
Good/bad luck happens, you might win lotto, you might get cancer, things will happen... they might be good, they might not.
You are riding along, shit happens and you crash. But you walk away un-hurt...
You where lucky not to be hurt, but un-lucky to crash.
You get paid out from insurance, walk into your bike shop and they offer you the bike of your dreams at an ex-demo rate and thro in some gear.
Now you where lucky to crash...
It depends on your out look on life, got a flat tyre? Late for work? Maybe a truck fails to stop at a red light and you would have been there if you where on time?
Luck is a perceived state.

took the words outta my mouth.


good on ya.

[vixter]

Most people involved in some level of sport have their own superstitions. Basket ball players, rugby players and even motorcyclists.

Superstitions as in, when you freshly paint a bike or buy a brand new bike, you must lay it down on the ground gently to get rid of the dreaded fresh paint/new bike to ground magnetism.

Likewise my main question is, how many of you belive that it is bad luck when you get asked to be carefull by your loved one or who ever that cares about you? I know quite a few riders who strictly belive that when they are asked to be careful, they are being jinxed cause when you say, "Sure honey or yes mum" something is bound to go wrong..

I have experienced about 3 crashes in the past because I was jinxed (or so I belive) so I prefer not to be asked to be be carefull. If I do get asked that, I usually say "no promises" to cancel the jinx.

What do you reckon?

YEAH I RECKON THERE IS SOMETHING IN IT WHEN SOMEONE SAYS BE CAREFUL YOU ARE DOOMED FROM THE START ITS LIKE SAYING WHITE RABBITS 3 TIMES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH FOR GOOD LUCK MORE OFTEN THAN NOT SUMMAT HAPPENS WHICH AINT TOO GOOD

[Highlander]

I went to a seminar once apon a time where the speaker had every one in the room stand, then said "Sit down if you have had bad things happen to you", then said "Sit down if you have had good things happen to you".
Obviously by this point no one was standing. Pretty well takes care of the luck thing don't you think.

To steal a line form the Europe song (late '80s for those who can remember): I'm not supersticious, I have no doubt that there is a reason how things work out.

[bigbadwolf]

Really? Have you ever heard of Paganism?

I know about these things and honestly that's the funniest thing i've read in a while, mainly cos you think it's true lol. If you can provide the Bible verse/s that back up your 'Friday the 13th - Adam & Eve' assertion i'll admit publicly that you are correct, otherwise as far as i'm concerned you're talking crap!

All I'm doing is giving evidence based on what I have read. In all honesty, full credit to you if you know better, I learn something new every day and if something I have already learned turns out to be wrong I'm all up for changing my views.

Anyhow, did a bit more googling and turns out that there are far too many differing views on the origins of Friday the 13th being unlucky:

http://www.tafkac.org/misc/friday_the_13th_origins.html

I should mention that this is only a source, not the be all and end all of what I think is the truth.

Personally I don't particularly care where superstitions come from; they could be from Paganism, Christianity, communism, KiwiBiker, or even the man who decided that it is bad manners to rest your elbows on a table, they would still all be based on bullshit. So, whatever.

[mstriumph]

Ahem, thread title says "superstitions", not "attacking one and others beliefs/faiths". Zed's a good man, leave him be.

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ahem - you are entitled to your beliefs, which i respect .......
but look to see 'who caste the first stone' [ie personal slur] in this instance - it certainly WASN'T 'he that is without stain' as there are numerous instances of him doing it previously..................

suggest that the person you are championing could be ASSURED of being 'left be' if he would keep his name-calling to himself [it upsets people]?

[SPORK]

...the fuck's going on here?

[mstriumph]

ssdd ..... sorry scoots - will go back to attemptin something that might be achievable - like teaching my chooks to crochet or similar ..

[SPman]

YEAH I RECKON THERE IS SOMETHING IN IT WHEN SOMEONE SAYS BE CAREFUL YOU ARE DOOMED FROM THE START ITS LIKE SAYING WHITE RABBITS 3 TIMES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH FOR GOOD LUCK MORE OFTEN THAN NOT SUMMAT HAPPENS WHICH AINT TOO GOOD

3 TIMES!!!!!

so thats where I've been going wrong.....

not that I believe all that, of course........