So who's got their knee down?

**Biff** · 6th January 2005, 15:29

Originally Posted by Bonez

You don't get it do you?

that depends on what IT is ......

Viffers humorous response - yes
My half hearted attempt at humour in response to Viffers response - yes
Your response in response to my response to Viffers response - no

your response ?

**azaa** · 6th January 2005, 22:15

Id be to worrid if I didnt do it properly and my knee conected whit the ground
Even the thought freeks me out!!!

**Ghost Lemur** · 6th January 2005, 22:20

Originally Posted by azaa

Id be to worrid if I didnt do it properly and my knee conected whit the ground
Even the thought freeks me out!!!

My only fear doing it would be going round the corner and having a big rock take my knee out. OUCH

Although the chances of going round a blind corner to find a rock in exactly the right place to erradicate my kneecap, are probably so miniscule that it's not worth giving any more thought to.

**magnum** · 8th January 2005, 17:05

any policemans out there???if you see someone on a bike going round the corner with a knee down would you pull them up??and if so why??thanx in advance.

**onearmedbandit** · 8th January 2005, 19:59

Originally Posted by Biff Baff

I tried to get my knee down over a period of three weeks about a year ago an succeeded with the help of a amateur racing buddy of mine. Have never had a need or desire to do it again since (been there done that).

This matey of mine told me that about 90% of people that actually have managed to get a knee down (as opposed to the 60% that bullshit?), cheat. What he meant was that when leaning into a corner with their respective arses hanging of their seats they really poke out their knees as far as they can trying desperately to make contract with the ground just so that they can say they've done it (as you'll see in many bike mag photos). He reckons that the trues "knee down" experience only happens when your leaning over so far that the only thing stopping your bar ends/faring/exhaust/pegs scraping the floor (and in order to assist with stability) is your knee, and not directly as purely an attempt to get your knee down.

I'm not sure that there's a difference myself. But I do think that anyone that wears knee sliders without any scratches on them is a wishful show off

I'd have to disagree with your matey, the term is 'knee-down' not 'lean angle of 45deg or more with knee down', so whether you're hanging off or not in my book doesn't matter, knee down is knee down.

As to your last statement, well call me a 'wishful show off' if you want but my suit came with knee slidres attached, looks funny with them off, they're virgin but thats because I haven't had to deck my knee out on the road yet. Could almost say someone with a 280km/h sportstourer that doesn't ride at 250km/h+ is a wishfull show off too.

**Biff** · 8th January 2005, 21:50

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

I'd have to disagree with your matey, the term is 'knee-down' not 'lean angle of 45deg or more with knee down', so whether you're hanging off or not in my book doesn't matter, knee down is knee down.

As to your last statement, well call me a 'wishful show off' if you want but my suit came with knee slidres attached, looks funny with them off, they're virgin but thats because I haven't had to deck my knee out on the road yet. Could almost say someone with a 280km/h sportstourer that doesn't ride at 250km/h+ is a wishfull show off too.

280KM/h + been there on a track. You know the one - it leads to Akaroa.

**Motoracer** · 8th January 2005, 22:08

Originally Posted by stevezx6r

any policemans out there???if you see someone on a bike going round the corner with a knee down would you pull them up??and if so why??thanx in advance.

Yep, in about 5 odd years of driving and riding on the road, I have only come across one prick cop who deserved to be called a pig. The rest of the cops have always been cool and I have nothing against cops in general.

I was going home casually one day on my ZXR400 going at the speed limit. I turn off from the motorway, made a right turn on a round about, then left at a give way and then I see the disco lights from an undercover car behind me. I pull over and the imidiatly this prick jumps out.

Cop - OI, YOU!! GET AWAY FROM THE BIKE!
Me - Ok, ok, I am just turning the bike off.
Cop - What did you think you were doing back there?
Me - What do you mean?
Cop - DON'T GET SMART WITH ME!
Me - Ummm, I don't know what you mean.
Cop - I was following you for the past 10kms, now what do you have to say?
Me - Ummm, Was I speeding?
Cop - Can I have a look at your licence?
Me - *gives the licence*
Cop - How did you get this, cause you are obviously not fit to ride. You are a threat to your self and other road users, mate. Go to a riding school and learn how to ride before you kill your self or others.
Me - What did I do?
Cop - What were you trying to do with sticking your knee out?? Don't you know that is dangerous? Besides, you were going too quick for that round about. You are going to kill someone.
Me - But that's how I go around corners.
Cop - Well you obviously don't know the first thing about riding. Like I said, go and do a bike handeling course before you kill yourself or someone else.
Me - How would you know how to corner a bike?
Cop - DON'T GET SMART WITH ME! I RIDE A BIKE TOO!
Me - ......

Anywhoo, let's just say after that I got chucked into the squad car cause matters turned to the worst and I got threatened with an arrest. All this was just cause he was a complete ass and being fully unreasonable. I think too many bikes had run away from this cop and I was the lucky one to take all his shit.

In the end, he was just an agro prick trying to scare me or something... Despite quoting me a $600 fine, I didn't get charged with anything at the end.

So next time you try to corner a bike with the hang off or knee down method, think twice (yea right! LOL)

**onearmedbandit** · 8th January 2005, 22:46

Originally Posted by Biff Baff

280KM/h + been there on a track. You know the one - it leads to Akaroa.

Yeah, I know the one very well. I just wouldn't go judging a rider because there's no scratch marks on their sliders. The late Dave Jefferies admitting to never getting his knee down on the road (quote recent PB mag) although he wore sliders, and as they said can't imagine too many people going past him.

**sAsLEX** · 8th January 2005, 22:53

hey MR your lucky!
I got done for $600 for "using a vehicle to the annoyance of any person" cause I pissped off a cop at the wrong time of night!!!!

**magnum** · 9th January 2005, 07:22

aye,say it to there face and dont hide behind a keyboard

**Bonez** · 9th January 2005, 07:46

What is it with this fasination on getting ones knee down on public roads. Surely getting around the corner as smoothly and as safely as possible should be a priority whilst riding. Is it an ego thing? Something to gander about whilst pissed at a rally. You like those fishing tales we all hear about. Or am I missing something?

Wouldn't it make you more succeptable to hitting those unexpected objects on the road such as curbs, possums - well you know what I mean. Will it enhance my riding experience? If not why bother?

**magnum** · 9th January 2005, 08:02

i only started doing it because at taupo i was scraping my pegs to much[which is dangerous] so i started hanging off doing the same speed and no more peg scraping.now i do it for a larf because i can but it does help with ground clearance,i used to think it was all kaka but its not.

**mattt** · 9th January 2005, 08:10

Originally Posted by Bonez

What is it with this fasination on getting ones knee down on public roads. Surely getting around the corner as smoothly and as safely as possible should be a priority whilst riding. Is it an ego thing? Something to gander about whilst pissed at a rally. You like those fishing tales we all hear about. Or am I missing something?

Wouldn't it make you more succeptable to hitting those unexpected objects on the road such as curbs, possums - well you know what I mean. Will it enhance my riding experience? If not why bother?

I think getting your knee down is alright (I've never done it / never tried).

What I think is gay is climbing half way off your bike so far that your right foot is on the right handle bar in order to get your left knee on the tarmac.
I've seen TS and co getting their knees down, that's cos they were hauling and got it down due to speed through a corner. That's when getting your knee down is cool, cos you've just perfected a corner

**onearmedbandit** · 9th January 2005, 17:43

For myself its just a neat feeling, part of being so close to the road at speed, bike cranked over and a part of your body dragging. I'm only 172cm tall so to scrape the knee I need to be fair cranked over, hence why its not a regular occurance on the road. Really couldn't give a flying fuck if someone thought I was cool or not, or a poser for wearing virgin knee sliders. There is only a few people in this world that have an opinion that I'll take to heart. As long as I'm happy with what I do.