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    Hi, my name is Sedge and I am a problem biker.

    Hi Sedge.

    <*cough**cough*> Erm, Thanks.

    Sedge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madboy
    . Which is silly, cos I'd be pretty offended if I couldn't make the problem rider posters at the station. .
    Yeah, its prolly you he's looking for...

    (dont buy a green bike folks - the cops are watching for them... )
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    I saw a Silver kwawa ZX12 getting ticketed on the way home, by a bike cop.

    The kwaka was in the slow lane, we were doing about 20-25kph. Traffic was shit! I saw the Kwaka pull into the shoulder and carry on overtaking at about 40-45 kph.
    1km down the road, I saw the bike cop ticketing him.
    Seems to me these cops are hard up for issueing tickets, they're on the verge of actually harassing riders and drivers now.
    I'm really starting to hate the cops more and more.

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    Can't say I really get into using the shoulder if I don't have to. Too much crap on there, you're asking for a puncture. You don't go far with no air in your tyres.

    And Sels, I was just thinking that the other day as I looked at, umm, is it flyinpony?, with a ZX6R that looks pretty damn close to mine... poor bugger. He's gonna have the Upper Hutt cops thinking it's payback time, the Lower Hutt guys blocking the road successfully this time and the Wgtn units ready with spikes... just in case.
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    Guys, it actually is an offence to ride in the service lane. They have ticketed people who use it for a good couple of decades now, particularly on SH2 between Petone and Ngauranga.
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    Thumbs up

    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamytus50
    ...i found most bikers are pretty pro police if respect is given both ways..
    Ya got it in one mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    Guys, it actually is an offence to ride in the service lane. They have ticketed people who use it for a good couple of decades now, particularly on SH2 between Petone and Ngauranga.
    What gets me is that the service lane is a really safe place to be (except maybe the chance of a puncture which at < 50kph is only an annoyance)

    Why don't they let us use them if the traffic is less than 30kph and we go no faster than 40kph and the lane is clear?

    It would be less danger for us and less annoyance for the cagers.
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    Because it's for service vehicles. Ambulances, Fire Engines, and Police Cars/bikes use it in an emergency. We can;t be trusted to get out of the way. Survivors Motorcycle Club helped BRONZ raise the issue of using the service lane in 1990 and again in '91 and both times we were turned down. I can't be bothered going there because the paper trail is 10 times bigger than what it was then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    Because it's for service vehicles. Ambulances, Fire Engines, and Police Cars/bikes use it in an emergency. We can;t be trusted to get out of the way. Survivors Motorcycle Club helped BRONZ raise the issue of using the service lane in 1990 and again in '91 and both times we were turned down. I can't be bothered going there because the paper trail is 10 times bigger than what it was then.
    Can't be trusted to get out of the way? yeright! Imaging tootling down the service lane, traffic stopped good possibility there is an accident ahead. You hear a siren and look behind there is a fire engine coming what do you do...

    a. stay in the service lane
    b. get the F out of the way

    But yup, I guess the paper trail would be huge but may be now we are allowed in the bus lanes....
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    That was the serious response. Paraphrased response: "The general public have difficulty identifying vehicles with lights and sirens in good traffic conditions. We don't believe that motorcyclists are any different and in peak hour travel conditions we believe that their situational awareness is even more compromised."

    I got in to trouble for pointing out that Senior public officials are supposed to be able to tell the difference between a belief system and empirical data, and how about doing a study on the differences in situational awareness between motorcyclists and car drivers who have never ridden a motorcycle.

    As I say, I can't be bothered going there any more. There are rules for them, rules for us, and with the exception of election time (What a joke - most of the people screwing up our enjoyment of motorcycling aren't elected) we don't have a hope in hell of altering policy unless the entire population kicks up a stink, a la nuclear weapons, or the anti-apartheid protests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zrxer
    Err dont you mean pedantic....?
    No, pragmatic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehovel
    In Auckland the first rule of filtering is don't pass Mr Plod the second rule is refer to first rule .
    I pass them legally all the time. I've never been pulled for it.

    I wonder if these policy makers realise that bikers are safer filtering in very heavy traffic than when it's less busy.
    Even the most moronic cager is not going to change lanes when he's got another car right alongside. So if we're in the middle we're OK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    That was the serious response. Paraphrased response: "The general public have difficulty identifying vehicles with lights and sirens in good traffic conditions. We don't believe that motorcyclists are any different and in peak hour travel conditions we believe that their situational awareness is even more compromised."
    That is probably the most uninformed nonsense I have ever heard!
    I don't think there is any time when I am more aware of my surroundings than during peak traffic. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the same for most riders.

    But as you say....
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    the old guy on the bmw caught me riding in the service lane between nagaranga an petone, had no helmet on to, to make thigns a bit easier to identify me, as i had no plate on.
    they wont come out an play if there always goign to lose you see
    he even made me push it home. i had it tapped out on the limiter. an was having a ciggy at same time.

    revenge was sweet though. still is. got off that ticket. same with every other ticket ive got.

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    I use the service lane before the terrace tunnel. Am aware that an ambulance could come up behind me so look out for them. Otherwise, I lane filter and find that if I am sensible, i.e. look, indicate and move between cars one at a time, a cop will not pull me over. I've always wondered why people sit behind cars in peak traffic and now I know its becase they may have been ticketed.
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