Another nasty one

[Marmoot]

I dunno....didn't the TV propaganda machine said 'Right'?

[James Deuce]

Thank you, for sharing your story Jim. I believe that employers do have a moral obligation to look after their employees and if they don't I don't know how they sleep at night. A good employer will value what you do, as without you they would have no business. There are too many that don't acknowledge this. Doing 10-15 hours over time without being noticed is disheartening to hear about ...especially the fact you are sacrificing time with your children

That was a better answer than I deserved!

Got any jobs???

[dangerous]

I dunno....didn't the TV propaganda machine said 'Right'?

Yeh but do the buracratic dickheads in there leather chairs even know what a motorbike is? let alone know how to ride one

[Marmoot]

Who was that MP that rides bike?
We need more of them.

[Posh Tourer :P]

I have worked/commuted down Symonds Street for many years and that street is just crazy outside the University these days. Double-parking is commonplace and people continually pull out without looking properly. I usually try to find a car to sit in behind to act as a "shield" as it's just not worth being the first down the road on a bike from the lights.

However, I had a great ride up Highway 16 to Wellsford today! Just a few roadworks to contend with including lime being spread about halfway between Helensville and Wellsford. Took me a while to clean that off when I got home!

Agree on both counts... Symonds St is mad, take off slowly when I leave from outside the Gym, so as not to hit the hundreds of unsuspecting fellow students crossing the road, who invariably look surprised to see me....

SH16 to Wellsford is great fun.... road works give me the opportunity to get a lead on Two Smoker - normally gone very quickly again :P From my place, take Scenic Drive, and Old North Rd.... then onto SH16.... great ride, except for the lack of return routes apart from SH1 and back the same way

[Jackrat]

IMHO crap............well it depends on the situation aye, If I'm in town 'yes' depending, and on the open Rd I sit in the center of my lane, if there 'is' on comming cars as if they wonder over the line (as some people do) I have more room to get out of the way. And if there is 'no' on comming cars then I will sit on the right side of my lane so as to give me more room if a 'something' comes out from the left of me.

Dosent the road code say to stay to the LEFT ???

Yep,I totaly agree with that.Out my way if you sit on the right side of YOUR lane you will probably die.It seems to be another one of these Franklin County things where the locals just can't stay on their own side of the road.
When I saw that statement made on TV, I thought that may be good in the city but not out here in the sticks mate.My whole approach is to NEVER trust
the Rules or the other drivers.As bikers we have to take the ultimate responsibilty for others actions weather we like it or not.Keep ya' eyes open an trust NOBODY.

[DEATH_INC.]

I've had far more problems with islanders than asians,yet the two biggies I've had were with a white fella and a maori.......BLOODY KIWI's!

[Lou Girardin]

And as for roadkills go, whatever happened to that Remuera Kiwi Businessman that killed a teenager and got off with a fine of $700?
You tell me that!

He ended up having to pay reparation to the family for funeral costs, a whole extra $1700.00. To someone that lives in Rem and drove a BMW X5 it wouldn't have been too much of a blow. He still tried to dodge it though and his lawyers fees would have been many times that amount.
That's what a life is worth in NZ.
lou

[DEATH_INC.]

Yep,it's like the median barrier on hugh watt drive,it took 1/2 doz people to get killed before it was put in because it was 'not economically viable'.....
I wander what the official value of a life is???

[k14]

Yep,it's like the median barrier on hugh watt drive,it took 1/2 doz people to get killed before it was put in because it was 'not economically viable'.....
I wander what the official value of a life is???

I think it is something like 500k or 250k. So if someone gets killed on a bend, then that much money gets put into the "fund" to fix it etc.

Was told how it worked a few years ago, but can't remember all the details.

[Posh Tourer :P]

Yep,I totaly agree with that.Out my way if you sit on the right side of YOUR lane you will probably die.It seems to be another one of these Franklin County things where the locals just can't stay on their own side of the road.
When I saw that statement made on TV, I thought that may be good in the city but not out here in the sticks mate.My whole approach is to NEVER trust
the Rules or the other drivers.As bikers we have to take the ultimate responsibilty for others actions weather we like it or not.Keep ya' eyes open an trust NOBODY.

Thats what i've learnt.... at about up to 70, stick in r-hand wheel track - less oil and crap, more visibility - for you and other people looking for you

On the open road/motorway, centre of lane... less likely to be lots of traffic therefore less visibility issues, and less oil and grease in the middle of the lane. Also, the faster you go, the more leeway you need eg gust of wind pushing you offline could be bad news when sitting at 120 in the right hand wheel track

[merv]

Who was that MP that rides bike?
We need more of them.

I guess you are talking about Rick Barker.

Other ones of note are Annette King and Lianne Dalziel who both have biker husbands that they ride on the back with.

[Big Dog]

I use the safest place for me for that stretch rule.

on a three lane motorway for example
Left lane = left side.
middle lane = middle of the lane.
right lane = right side.

I try to remain in the right wheel track as this is where other trafic expects you to be but I move around to get the best compromise on conspicuity, visibility, view / road surface, ideal line, threat/hazard & escape route.

Locking in to one lane position as the only acceptable one means you at one point or another are guaranteeing you are going to sacrifice one of the above.

Hence it says to remain in the right wheel track unlessit is safer to ride elsewhere.

Any rule without exceptions will create a hazard if followed with out common sense.

There is an exception to every rule, except the rule that there is an exception to every rule.

[laRIKin]

I guess you are talking about Rick Barker.

Other ones of note are Annette King and Lianne Dalziel who both have biker husbands that they ride on the back with.

Lianne Dalziel does not like to ride on bikes. She tryed it and doesn,t really
like it. By the way she doesn't ride her self.

[Coldkiwi]

I think it is something like 500k or 250k. So if someone gets killed on a bend, then that much money gets put into the "fund" to fix it etc.

Was told how it worked a few years ago, but can't remember all the details.

..i'm sure that news would delight some family friends of ours who lost their eldest daughter to a head on crash on that bend.. and the family whos son was coming the other way.

DEpressing.

Now if we can just hang the politicising (bloody run for government will you lot if you feel so strongly about it!), I am also able to offer some info on the symonds st incident because the brother of a close friend of mines flatmate was the pillion passenger. Apparently he's a biker too (at least was...6 weeks in hospital with titanium rods for his legs after he flew over the car). Sounds as though the rider was going pretty hard out of the intersection (to impress? i dunno) which undoubtedly added to the severity of the crash, if not the actual cause of it. perhaps they would've survived if they hadn't been nailing it?
worth thinking about and contemplating (at least before you hijack a thread with labour law crap)