Police attitude

[notme]

The last 10 minutes...... Cool! You must have a wireless laptop connection on the Patrol bike. Maybe you should pull well off the road when you logon to Kiwibiker, so these fullas can get past.

Either that or if something happens - You hoon back to the station, plant your arse in the chair and type, type, type. So your fanclub can have a little excitement and fullfilment in their lives.

So you had a bad day, you poor bastard. Just think how many people you give bad days too.
I just got a 65 in a 50 speeding ticket (First ticket in 5 years). I don't give two tosses about cops anymore. Previously I never spoke a bad word of them.
But after getting a speeding ticket for 65 in a 50 from a bike cop while I'm riding a GSXR 1000 K6, I now have no interest in the wellfare of the Police.
This sort of bullshit turned me against cops in an instant.
This is the way the country are going, can't you tell? The cops are becoming the scum of the nation because people like me - Work my arse off every day, pay heavy taxes, spend my tax deducted money on GST Taxed items and then get penalised for 65 in a 50.
You should try a K5/K6 sometime, I have to look at the speedo every 10 seconds because I may have sped up 10kph without realising.
What a load of Bullshit this Government and it's Police force!
You wanna lower the roadtoll? Then impose heavy fines and imprisonments - Take a page out of Singapores book.
In NZ we seem to have found a fine balance for making the maximum profit out of road offences.

Speaking statistics, what about the 6 officers that resigned the force in December, proven guilty of offences by the Police Complaints Authority and then given the opportunity to resign the force or suffer being expelled from the force.

Anyway dude, to cut a long story short. When you've had a bad day - Learn how to wear it on the chin! It's your job! If you can't handle the heat........

You'd make a far better point if you didn't contradict yourself within the same post......

[cowpoos]

You sound like a 14 year old

gezzzz your a angry little man....did u red rep him and send him a nasty PM aswell ?

[Finn]

Hmmmmmmmmmm that came out twice for some reason..deleted now.

There's gotta be a fine for doing that.

[vtec]

Man, you need to get some facts before you start bleating about cops "just getting high on drama and crap".

Having nearly been run down twice in the space of the previous 10 minutes by an idiot in a stolen car that had been followed all the way from the North Shore, you might have your adrenalin going a bit as well. Of course the TV cameras were there - they had been following it as well!

And for your info, here is some more drama and crap that happened today... 3 suicides, 1 almost homocide (3 yr old kid beaten and not likely to survive), a 7 yr old boy died from an asthma attack and had to stop a car at gunpoint after a shooting. Is that enough "drama and crap" for you?

There you go getting all high on drama... and this time exaggeration again. If you nearly got run down twice in 10 minutes, then that would be because you knew he was coming and you put yourself on a bike in the way... not smart.

For the amount of cop cars I saw there you could have dealt with 5-10 bloody homicides. So don't go telling me that you're stretched. You're only stretched by your soft target pick on the public for money duties. Seriously solve some bloody car thefts/ and you'll get the crims before they do ram raids, burglary's and robberies (burglaries are out of control). Cause all the crims use stolen cars so that they can't be identified. Sort your shit out before whining to us taxpayers who pay your wages. Well I should apologise to you personally, cause I realise that you don't make the calls on who gets what duties, but I'm quite passionate about sorting New Zealand out... and the retards in charge of the "force" aren't helping.

[EZAS]

nted to remind him , who pays his wages, but thought better of it, just had this picture of me buried under a mass of blue uniforms on the side of the street.

all it takes is a little politeness, starting to loose patience with the fuzz, gonna get ugly soon.

A: If you ask them "what do you get paid for", then you may suffer the fate of spending the night in the cells (LIKE ME). They don't even give a sh*t if your the sober driver for four girls who are still waiting by the car.

B: I lost patience with the fuzz along time ago, thus why I ride a bike

Cops only join the force cos they usually have limited education and have yet to be arrested. There all hypocrites (name ONE that hasn't broken the law). They don't honour the crown, they don't care about the general public as they arrest them.

[vtec]

Bugger me, 30-40 staff, for one job. How would you fit them all in the same house, let alone working in that house? I agree that homicide is important and does need good attention. But so does burglary, and theft. A car chase doesn't need 30-40 police and a chopper. As far as I could tell, they were all just looking to get a bit of holden thrashing in. And hopefully get on camera jumping on the crims back.

If you can't handle the stress of following someone, then you better back off before you screw up and hurt the public. There was a bloody chopper for keeping tabs on him. And I'm sure that some of the feds wouldn't find walking the fine line too stressful.

The problem is that smaller crimes lead to bigger ones, cause the perps think that they can do whatever they like without repercussions. Plus car theft is the basis for probably every robbery/burglary committed. Sort vehicle theft out and you'll be amazed at what this will do to the criminal element of society. No more anonymity for crims who drive other peoples cars.

[Indoo]

The problem is that smaller crimes lead to bigger ones, cause the perps think that they can do whatever they like without repercussions. Plus car theft is the basis for probably every robbery/burglary committed. Sort vehicle theft out and you'll be amazed at what this will do to the criminal element of society. No more anonymity for crims who drive other peoples cars.

I would ty to be nice to ya, but you obviously are as thick as two planks (dont ask Dafe what that means)

Its great that your an expert on crime and all but maybe read a bit before you open your mouth and look like a tool. As I would imagine this is the car you are talking about.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectID=10366266

[Indoo]

I would try to be nice to ya, but you obviously are as thick as two planks (dont ask Dafe what that means)

Its great that your an expert on crime and all but maybe read a bit before you open your mouth and look like a tool. As I would imagine this is the car you are talking about.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectID=10366266

BTW its the public ie you who voted the government in, and its the government who dictates Police numbers and the speed limit that they want enforced. If you have a problem with it remember its you who elected them, Police don't have a choice which law to enforce.

[stanko]

Imagine if we had no real crime, every second car would be HP.

[Dafe]

Since when was the type of bike you ride an acceptable excuse for exceeding the limit by 15kmh, you know the rules if you break them take the punishmnet and stop snivelling



you poor bastard I feel so sorry for you



How about you quote some statistics from similar sized private orgainisations for a comparison

Hi Kickaha,

You need to develop a mindset that can think one step ahead in a conversation. It's not about me getting a fine. Your thinking is very vague.

The issue for discusion here Kickaha is: The government is running dry on issueing the fines of yester-year, hence they are now required to implement rules that are consistantly tightening so that the government can continue with their wealth of monetary income from the fines system.
This style of government control has some resemblance to those of communist structures, name one other country that allows it's government so much freedom to dictate it's countries policies without public involvement, that is not communist or third world..........

Regarding the road fine system. If the government just tripled the monetary penalties for traffic offences, they would see this form of income dry up very quickly - so would the road offences, but do you think Kickaha, that the government wants that?

The government needs this income from the NZ public to fund policies such as the growing refugee influx program.
This is also where the money comes from that will pay our current 5 million dollars of prisoners compensation claims.

Do you see Kickaha, I don't care about the $120 fine I have for doing 65 in a 50, Knowing 10 years ago it would have been ignored by a bike cop.
It's all about how the noose is tightening a little bit more every year and how the average New Zealander is also working a little harder every year too.
You might wonder where this ultimately heads. This is where you must look at our economic allignment, which of course is Asian oriented.
Thus, looking at the structures of countries like Malaysia and Taiwan is a good indication of where we may be 20-30 years from now, if we continue on the current trend. Higher stress lifestyles, stronger work orientated lifestyles and dare I say a very dictatorial government.

So to sum it up simply for you Kickaha, I don't care that I got a fine, money is irrelevant to my interests here.
I'm concerned that this country has a government that has custom designed a Police force to support it's interests with their money gathering methods.
Interests which nowdays require frequent adjusting and altering to meet their requirements. Interest's which are not based around benefitting the NZ public or workers. I think Primarily working NZ'ers should be benefitting from the government policies - definately not refugees.
I'm a firm believer that if you come to NZ, you come with something to offer. After all, anyone can push a lawn mower, clean public amenities or carry out basic council choirs. Why should refugees get money for nothing while NZ'ers go to work, and get taxed to pay for them?

So Kickaha, You feel sorry for me! I'm so flattered!

Well I feel sorry for every hard tax paying worker in this country. Because the thanks they are getting is nothing more than a gradual trend towards communism and a government that no longer has caring consideration for the interest of it's workers.

The governments policies and policing program is fucking disgusting!

It's a shame so many wankers voted in Aunty Helen, Don Brash may be a cheesy looking git - but at least his policies catered for the best interests of the NZ worker. At least Helen ain't around for much longer, she's farked over this country now and is about to reap the benefits.

[Indoo]

Hi Kickaha

You need to develop a mindset that can think one step ahead in a conversation. It's not about me getting a fine. Your thinking is very vague.

Do you see Kickaha, I don't care about the $120 fine I have for doing 65 in a 50, Knowing 10 years ago it would have been ignored by a bike cop.
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I'm glad your smart enough to be thinking one step ahead Dafe, but i'm just a mere fly on the wall and I'm wondering how you can get a 120 dollar fine for doing 15k's over which is quite clearly a 80 dollar fine. Please write in and defend this, friend.

[vtec]

I would ty to be nice to ya, but you obviously are as thick as two planks (dont ask Dafe what that means)

Its great that your an expert on crime and all but maybe read a bit before you open your mouth and look like a tool. As I would imagine this is the car you are talking about.

Wow, that was some really well thought out post with information to back up your points

I did read that this morning... I first posted about it last night... dumbarse

Funny thing is I was driving a Red Honda :P

BTW its the public ie you who voted the government in, and its the government who dictates Police numbers and the speed limit that they want enforced. If you have a problem with it remember its you who elected them, Police don't have a choice which law to enforce.

Hey I'm not one of the many hanging on to the taxpayers purse who voted Helen back in. She's managed to get it so that enough people are getting handouts from the taxpayer, that they think they will be worse off if National gets in and starts cutting taxes. Yeah and I think the government is a bunch of wankers. At least old Brashy says what he thinks, and whats even more impressive is that it usually makes sense and rings true. Still I don't know how National would handle a currently half arsed (mostly through mismanagement) police force.

[Indoo]

[QUOTE=vtec]

I did read that this morning... I first posted about it last night... dumbarse


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Thanks mate, maybe next time before ranting on try waiting a little, its certainly helped me!

[madboy]

The police force is incompetently run. The upper echelons are far too interested in their own self-serving agendas (performance targets) to care about what actually happens on the frontline, who they let in to do it, or whether they can effectively do it in the first place. It's all about achieving those targets - doesn't matter if PR suffers. If LTNZ says to the commissioner that they'll fund $50m per year if the Police can win an annual popularity contest the Highway Patrol will be suddenly be send on customer focus courses, will turn a blind eye to speed and bust only boyracers, drunk drivers and caravans. It's all about targets.

Public perception is NO WHERE in those targets. NO WHERE. And so public perception of the police is a nothing issue. I have my reasons for not liking them, and I can't say it's related to a 65k ticket, but "normal" law abiding Joe Public only sees the cops for two things usually. Burglary and speeding tickets. Most people don't have an immediate family member raped/murdered/brutalised, most of us don't get our offices robbed at knifepoint, nor our ex-partners threaten to kill us with shotguns. But just about everyone has or knows of someone who's house has been burgled AND who's had a bullshit little speeding ticket. I don't get sympathy when I rock up to work saying I just got busted for 149k, but everyone thinks I'm hard done by at 111k. Where are most tickets issued? Not at 149k.

So your house gets burgled? Cops are too busy (hey, fellas, not having a crack at you frontline chaps - I'm just stating facts) to come for HOURS, possibly the next day. Now most people are pretty pissed that the fuzz don't show on demand.

So when they get a ticket for 62 in a 50? Mate... it's the end of the world. "You bastards couldn't show up until the next f***ing day when my house got trashed, but you've got time to hide at the end of a four-lane road at 7am on Sunday morning to give me a f***ing ticket????!!!"

And THAT is where you get threads like this will all the pig bashing. People don't draw a line between Highway Patrol/Traffic/General Duties. You're all cops. Stop focusing on bullshit traffic (I'm all cool with being chased for 149, but 111 is pretty sad), and start concentrating on the bread and butter.

And to the cops who don't like getting the verbal bash - I put this to you - if you don't like the heat, get out of the kitchen. You CHOOSE to work for that type of organisation, so don't whinge when the shit starts flying.

[vtec]

Thanks mate, maybe next time before ranting on try waiting a little, its certainly helped me!

Why wait... I know what I saw, and was perfectly entitled to ask about it.

Stop wasting post room... you do realise everyone following this thread has to read what you write?