Police attitude

[Dafe]

But don't forget Scumdog, he rides a GSXR 1000 K6, and he owns his own company........

Hey Virago, we are having an constructive and informative discussion here on this topic. It doesn't take long before somebody has to revert it back to - Bike, Ugh, Ooohhhh, Suzuki GSXR, Me clever..... Me can read! - Doh, My name's Virago, Doh!
But I think some of us are over that!

[Indoo]

I'm still not over the whole fly on the wall saga to be honest.

[MikeL]

The police force is incompetently run. The upper echelons are far too interested in their own self-serving agendas (performance targets) to care about what actually happens on the frontline, who they let in to do it, or whether they can effectively do it in the first place. It's all about achieving those targets - doesn't matter if PR suffers. If LTNZ says to the commissioner that they'll fund $50m per year if the Police can win an annual popularity contest the Highway Patrol will be suddenly be send on customer focus courses, will turn a blind eye to speed and bust only boyracers, drunk drivers and caravans. It's all about targets.

Public perception is NO WHERE in those targets. NO WHERE. And so public perception of the police is a nothing issue. I have my reasons for not liking them, and I can't say it's related to a 65k ticket, but "normal" law abiding Joe Public only sees the cops for two things usually. Burglary and speeding tickets. Most people don't have an immediate family member raped/murdered/brutalised, most of us don't get our offices robbed at knifepoint, nor our ex-partners threaten to kill us with shotguns. But just about everyone has or knows of someone who's house has been burgled AND who's had a bullshit little speeding ticket. I don't get sympathy when I rock up to work saying I just got busted for 149k, but everyone thinks I'm hard done by at 111k. Where are most tickets issued? Not at 149k.

So your house gets burgled? Cops are too busy (hey, fellas, not having a crack at you frontline chaps - I'm just stating facts) to come for HOURS, possibly the next day. Now most people are pretty pissed that the fuzz don't show on demand.

So when they get a ticket for 62 in a 50? Mate... it's the end of the world. "You bastards couldn't show up until the next f***ing day when my house got trashed, but you've got time to hide at the end of a four-lane road at 7am on Sunday morning to give me a f***ing ticket????!!!"

And THAT is where you get threads like this will all the pig bashing. People don't draw a line between Highway Patrol/Traffic/General Duties. You're all cops. Stop focusing on bullshit traffic (I'm all cool with being chased for 149, but 111 is pretty sad), and start concentrating on the bread and butter.

And to the cops who don't like getting the verbal bash - I put this to you - if you don't like the heat, get out of the kitchen. You CHOOSE to work for that type of organisation, so don't whinge when the shit starts flying.

Well done, madboy. An oasis of common sense in a desert of ignorance, prejudice and stupid invective.

[Rashika]

In my books - Getting a ticket constitutes having a bad day.

Shit REALLY? Damn wish mine were that bad...
I'd consider my Grandma dying last week as a bad day...or when I was home-invaded by some damn creep as I slept... or maybe getting separated... or run into by some twerp... but getting a speeding ticket? Ah no, I'd just consider that stoopid on my behalf...it might piss me off but would still be my own fault.

I decided at an early stage to educate myself, so that my definatition of having a bad day, was not dealing with criminals, unreasonable drunks and aggresive life-threatening situations. I decided to leave that for some uneducated looser, just like you!

The cop could have had a rant, but....... I don't much respect revenue collectors and I get my kicks out of exposing their lack of intelligence. Just like now!

oh pleeeeeze... yup all cops aren't educated, all politicians are fkwts and Dorkland is gonna with the Super14
If you really wanted to change the govn then you'd get off ya high horse and ACTUALLY do it.... talking is just that, TALK.
Me I accept the govn has its problems, but so does every damn govt and most businesses ... and will always have cos you cant please everyone all the time, its always gonna be a no-win situation. Fight the battles you can win, you'll never win the war... it aint winable.

[Sniper]

Im amazed at how "Hard done by" everyone seems to be when the subject of police comes up. Shit, they do their job and have to put up with Idiots bitching and moaning about shit that they do wrong and end up getting caught.

I would like to see Dafe, snuffels or anyone else who calls the cops arseholes to spend a week in their shoes. Maybe you might learn something.

[WINJA]

In my books - Getting a ticket constitutes having a bad day.
I decided at an early stage to educate myself, so that my definatition of having a bad day, was not dealing with criminals, unreasonable drunks and aggresive life-threatening situations. I decided to leave that for some uneducated looser, just like you!

The cop could have had a rant, but....... I don't much respect revenue collectors and I get my kicks out of exposing their lack of intelligence. Just like now!

Ohhhhh, this soft and gentle life I live!!!

SO DO A RUNNER BITCH

[WINJA]

Shit REALLY? Damn wish mine were that bad...
I'd consider my Grandma dying last week as a bad day...or when I was home-invaded by some damn creep as I slept... or maybe getting separated... or run into by some twerp... but getting a speeding ticket? Ah no, I'd just consider that stoopid on my behalf...it might piss me off but would still be my own fault.

oh pleeeeeze... yup all cops aren't educated, all politicians are fkwts and Dorkland is gonna with the Super14
If you really wanted to change the govn then you'd get off ya high horse and ACTUALLY do it.... talking is just that, TALK.
Me I accept the govn has its problems, but so does every damn govt and most businesses ... and will always have cos you cant please everyone all the time, its always gonna be a no-win situation. Fight the battles you can win, you'll never win the war... it aint winable.

EVERYONES GRANDMA IS GOING TO DIE, AND IF THE PIGS SPENT LESS TIME BEING A ROAD SIDE CASH REGISTER GETTING A HOME INVASION WOULD BE LESS LIKELY CAUSE WHEN YOU SOLVE THE SMALL PROBLEMS THERE LESS LIKELY TO BECOME BIG ONES .AS FOR GETTING SEPERATED ONLY YOU KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THAT AND IM TRYING NOT TO BE MEAN LATELY SO I WONT COMMENT .AND BTW ITS AUCKLAND AND YOU WILL RESPECT NZ'S BEST CITY

[Lou Girardin]

BTW its the public ie you who voted the government in, and its the government who dictates Police numbers and the speed limit that they want enforced. If you have a problem with it remember its you who elected them, Police don't have a choice which law to enforce.

Bullshit Indoo, it's your bosses who sold Police independence out to the LTNZ, and it was your bosses who curried favour with the Govt by pointing out the lovely fine revenue that would accrue from harsh enforcement.

[Virago]

Hey Virago, we are having an constructive and informative discussion here on this topic. It doesn't take long before somebody has to revert it back to - Bike, Ugh, Ooohhhh, Suzuki GSXR, Me clever..... Me can read! - Doh, My name's Virago, Doh!
But I think some of us are over that!

Dafe, you are neither constructive or informative - you're a self-absorbed, egocentric tosser. Keep it up, this is hilarious.

[Grahameeboy]

Shit REALLY? Damn wish mine were that bad...
I'd consider my Grandma dying last week as a bad day...or when I was home-invaded by some damn creep as I slept... or maybe getting separated... or run into by some twerp... but getting a speeding ticket? Ah no, I'd just consider that stoopid on my behalf...it might piss me off but would still be my own fault.

So you reckon you are hard done by then?.....

[WINJA]

Dunno about 'sacrifices' but I get a shitload of reward from the public!!

YOU MEAN THINGS LIKE GETTING A WHEEL RIM FOR A HAT , SURELY YOUVE NOTICED THE LACK OF RESPECT FOR YOUR LINE OF WORK IS INCREASING

[Lou Girardin]

Just like the dope seller thinks it's all about revenue gathering, and the sexo who thinks HE's being picked on - EVERYBODY thinks they have a cross to bear - and their cross is the biggest one.

They're criminals.
In contrast to the hundreds of thousands of ordinary, mainly harmless NZ'ers that get pedantic little speeding tickets. (Your new Road Safety manager's "hard core" speeders) Of which, over 66% are for 11 to 15 km/h over the limit.
That's spreading the cross a little wide, don't you think?

[Grahameeboy]

Bullshit Indoo, it's your bosses who sold Police independence out to the LTNZ, and it was your bosses who curried favour with the Govt by pointing out the lovely fine revenue that would accrue from harsh enforcement.

Lou.....do they have a choice in NZ....."No" is the answer because that is the way it is here.......see my previous post re UK.....

[WINJA]

BTW its the public ie you who voted the government in, and its the government who dictates Police numbers and the speed limit that they want enforced. If you have a problem with it remember its you who elected them, Police don't have a choice which law to enforce.

AND NO MATTER WHO WE VOTE FOR IT NEVER CHANGES ANYTHING RE ROAD RULES AND FINES, DONT YOU THINK ITS TIME THE COPS MADE A MORAL DECESION TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND START FIGHTING CRIME .
I KNOW YOU PRICKS DONT BELIEVE IN ROAD SAFETY JUST LOOK AT THE POLICE DRIVING RECORD AND CONTRADICTIONS LIKE UNCLE HELENS SPEEDING MOTORCADE .

[WINJA]

Lou.....do they have a choice in NZ....."No" is the answer because that is the way it is here.......see my previous post re UK.....

EVRYONE HAS A CHOICE , I HAD A CHOICE BETWEEN DOING SOMETHING IMMORAL OR LOSING MY JOB AND I CHOSE TO LOSE MY JOB .
A LONG TIME AGO THE POLICE THREATENED TO LEAVE THEIR TICKET BOOKS IN THEIR LOCKERS AS A PROTEST OVER SOMETHING SO ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE (LOU CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG , IT MAY HAVE BEEN A DRUG INDUCED FANTASY)