Pleeease...can we give it a rest

[jaybee180]

I'm feeling compelled to write this coz this "cop bashing" trend seems to be getting more and more frequent.

Why do you guys feel the need to get personal and state things that are incorrect, or that you know nothing about.

By all means if you have an opinion then express it - but please, please know what you are talking about before you denigrade someones chosen profession or insult their intelligence/upbringing/morals/ethics or anything else that you feel is an easy target.

For all of you out there:
The police have traffic and GDB. Basically the traffic are out on the road catching you guys who speed (amongst other stuff). The GDB do all the other stuff. Currently the traffic guys are the more funded and more staffed group. That is the design of the current government climate and NOT determined by the general Joe Blow who joins the job. Ask any cop why they joined and the ultimate answer is to catch criminals and to help people. That sentiment has never changed in the fourteen years that I have worked with these people.

If your crime is not attended to then it's probably because there is no one to go - and at the end of the day, to anyone who thinks that their burglary where their "possessions" have been stolen demands more priority than a situation where someone could potentially lose their life - then I'm sorry, but you are never going to be happy.

It aint easy for these guys and they have all my respect.

I read a report today that stated that the Police Comms Centres deal with 1.7 million emergency calls a year - less than one third of those actually constitutes an emergency. Ask yourself!!!!!

Please know the facts before you go off at these guys. It's not them! It's your government - and like I have said before - if you don't like it, then get on the phone, or write letters, or start a petition - JUST DO SOMETHING.

Rant over.

[Patrick]

Bling for you....we (I) am (are) thick skinned and get a laugh out of some of the crap spouted here...just easy targets I suppose...

Imagine life without us... including life without traffic cops... you wouldn't find me out there riding motorbikes, thats for sure. That battletruck off Mad Max would hardly even do it.

[jimbo600]

I know it'll never happen, but they should separate traffic from regular policing. I believe that the current HP situation if doing irreparable damage to police reputation. And for fucks sake fund the organisation properly, that goes for defence too.

[Phenoix]

Actually there is talk to seperate the 2 departements again.
But that then creats the problem of people just seeing a cop car (VS an HP) and just speeding past.
But yes, the prority's of someone speeding vs other crimes is highly unbalanced.

[The Stranger:Me]

Jaybee180 I believe that you are quite correct.

I feel quite sure that it is not the average cop who decides where the resources are to be expended.

Furthermore I believe that this forum is enriched because of the presence of the Police, both from meeting some of them and where else can I go to get answers to policing questions etc

However, the reality is still that the public at large, whom the govt and police are there to serve, and in reality pay their wages, are entitled to their views and to have these heard and respected.

Surely if the police on this site did not want the scorn heaped upon them it would be wise for them to listen to those views, respect those views and not attempt to defend the crap that their "superiors" and /or the govt dish up.

When they do this it appears to the rest of the site that these are in fact their views too. Hence the arguments tend to become personal.

[Scouse]

Well ther are some things that the Police Highracy do that dont help the poor old cop at the coal face Like letting of Sione Luaki for an assult that knocked out the guy that was on the reciving end cause luaki is an ALL BLACK he gets let off but wait it wasn't the court that decided this it was the police. In my opinion an assult that lays somone unconcious is a serious assult and as such should have been put before the District court.

[Colapop]

I haven't heard from any coppers on here that have said "Fuck we're the police and we'll do whatever the fuck we please!" It just doesn't happen. I had the opportunity to join the police, but didn't because I knew I couldn't atke the BS that goes with it. I would've just ended up a crim by smacking the crap outa someone. Tough job, big ups guys...
Traffic wardens now that's a different story....

[SuperDave]

Surely if the police on this site did not want the scorn heaped upon them it would be wise for them to listen to those views, respect those views and not attempt to defend the crap that their "superiors" and /or the govt dish up.

When they do this it appears to the rest of the site that these are in fact their views too. Hence the arguments tend to become personal.

This is a very good point, something that I've also thought about. Pretty much all the comments from our police members are in support and defense of the 'police' view, never the other way around.

[Aitch]

Well ther are some things that the Police Highracy do that dont help the poor old cop at the coal face Like letting of Sione Luaki for an assult that knocked out the guy that was on the reciving end cause luaki is an ALL BLACK he gets let off but wait it wasn't the court that decided this it was the police. In my opinion an assult that lays somone unconcious is a serious assult and as such should have been put before the District court.

For God's sake man, it's the COURT who decides the sentence not the cops. If it had been you r or me in the dock we'd have been offered diversion (assuming that you'd be a first time offender too.) Diversion is offered to most first timer offenders at the lower end of the scale these days. Were you in court to hear EXACTLY what happened? I think not.

This is EXACTLY what jaybee was talking about...folks bursting into print not knowing the whole story....

[Kickaha]

Well ther are some things that the Police Highracy do that dont help the poor old cop at the coal face Like letting of Sione Luaki for an assult that knocked out the guy that was on the reciving end cause luaki is an ALL BLACK he gets let off but wait it wasn't the court that decided this it was the police. In my opinion an assult that lays somone unconcious is a serious assult and as such should have been put before the District court.

He did go to court and was granted leave to apply for diversion as I understand it that is a decison from the court not from the police, can you show it was otherwise?

[MSTRS:Me]

It is the Kiwi condition to take out one's frustration on the person in front of one. The faceless grey people that send down the instructions that cause our frustrations will never actually get to face that anger. Our messages should be taken back to those people by the ones that we vent at.

[Sniper]

Nicely said. Nobody will listen though

[The_Dover]

Do I hear the sound of WINJA approaching?

Or did someone just fart?

[stify]

Do I hear the sound of WINJA approaching?

Or did someone just fart?

opps...sorry

[spudchucka]

Well ther are some things that the Police Highracy do that dont help the poor old cop at the coal face Like letting of Sione Luaki for an assult that knocked out the guy that was on the reciving end cause luaki is an ALL BLACK he gets let off but wait it wasn't the court that decided this it was the police. In my opinion an assult that lays somone unconcious is a serious assult and as such should have been put before the District court.

If the system entitles him to diversion why shouldn't he get it? Because he's an All Black? Does being an AB make him more culpable than a non AB in the same situation?

Diversion has to be agreed to by the victim and by the courts. The offender has to complete diversionary tasks, if they don't they get the conviction and lose the option of diversion for any future offending. By the way, all this happens in the District Court.