Top Speed?

[Coldkiwi]

LOL good point Lou... But i dont really want to hit zero on the back straight...... hmmm... who's done high speed braking before (like top speed or really high speed down to zero)????????

I guess the hair pin at pukekohe has to count even tho its not to a dead stop (unless you get it really wrong).
It takes me ages to get my braking rhthym for that corner and fight the survival instinct not to start pulling the lever in at the 200m mark. Closest I've got is about 120-130metres I think and thats from an indicated 255kmhr. Still got room for improvement and I know it... that corner looks like its approaching awfully fast!

[vifferman]

This is a rather inane topic, in my opinion. It's OK if - like ColdKiwi - you're talking about track-based stuff, but otherwise

Or is this another "I've got a bigger dick than you" thread?

Ask that guy in Nelson who got pinged at 202 what his top speed is...

Flame away....

[SPman]

. Still got room for improvement and I know it... that corner looks like its approaching awfully fast!

And on the road, the arse end of a car approaches even awfully faster

[wkid_one]

This is a rather inane topic, in my opinion. It's OK if - like ColdKiwi - you're talking about track-based stuff, but otherwise

Or is this another "I've got a bigger dick than you" thread?

Ask that guy in Nelson who got pinged at 202 what his top speed is...

Flame away....

Hear hear - well said.

Your top speed is only limited by the bike...at the end of the day.

Who cares what you top speed is - what is more important is how quick you are point to point - hence a race track being a more valid reference point for speed.

You can travel 300kph down the straights - but still turn up behind someone who averages 150kph for the whole journey. Who cares what terminal velocity is - as I am yet to travel anyway that only involves a straight line.

[TonyB]

i'd rather do 200 on the rs than on my mates 92 fzr1000 though - shit that takes some stoppin' that thing does.....

I know just what you mean, I've had my FZR1000 doing 240k indicated at Ruapuna, there was more to come, but I was really having to haul on the brake lever to slow it down again so I chickened out- lap after lap after....... Braided lines and better pads might be the go methinks. I've seen it still pulling at 270 indicated, but I was running out of road and nerve so I shut her down.

I hear what your saying with the 'who's got the biggest dick' thing, but the first question I get asked about my bike by non bikers is either:
"How fast does it go?"
or
"Whats the fastest you've ever gone on it"
That makes a guy curious after a while.
They usually then say something like "Yeh, but it's not as fast as a Harley, is it?"

[kerryg]

[QUOTE=TonyB

I hear what your saying with the 'who's got the biggest dick' thing, but the first question I get asked about my bike by non bikers is either:
"How fast does it go?"
or
"Whats the fastest you've ever gone on it"
That makes a guy curious after a while.
They usually then say something like "Yeh, but it's not as fast as a Harley, is it?" [/QUOTE]

Hey Tony. It's an interesting subject with lots of equally valid different points of view. Maybe (my 2 cents worth here) in a perfect world we'd have one of every kind of bike so that we could enjoy every different facet of biking: a dedicated hard out dirt bike, an adventure bike (big KTM or a GS beemer would be kool), a retro street bike (maybe a Thruxton?), a big cruiser (HAS to be a Harley)...for all of which top speed and fastest absolute acceleration and maximum HP etc are largely immaterial to the experience..and of course a nice European street bike (hard to choose here.....MV Agusta? Guzzi? Ducati?) and a 600cc Japper sport bike (mmm...GSXR600? R6?) and a big grunter like a ZX12 or a Busa for the testosterone stuff....

"How fast" is a completely valid measure of a bike's performance, depending upon where a bike and rider fit in the spectrum. But it is one measure, not an over-arching criterion.

Guess what happens is we focus on the aspect of biking that is available to us and tend to exclude the forms that are outside of our range of experience or budget. It's human nature to some extent. Our bike becomes a kind of metaphor for ourselves. Disrespect my bike and you disrespect me......I try to resist it though. Hey..I'll wave at someone if they're riding a Honda step-thru or a Harley Fat Boy or whatever but I just hate it when they don't wave back because they (I suppose) think that their motorcycle is better than yours and presumably that they are better than you as a result (don't know that that logic stands close scrutiny but...)......it's kind of like going back to kindergarten.

It's interesting. Sort of "I am my motorbike"....weird

[Posh Tourer :P]

Top speed is not a relevant measure of the bike's performance. It means absolutely nothing, due to the many factors affecting it- gearing, power, tyres, frame, suspension -these all have a major impact. Top speed says nothing relevnt about the bike's performance. It is too dependant on other factors. Measure the quality of the power (acceleration?) suspension, tyres, gearing (acceleration again?) and frame, and you have a meaningful measure. Nobody really uses top speed in it's purest application. Acceleration, cornering ability, comfort, all these things matter in the use of the bike. Even while racing. Even drag racing is about acceleration more than top speed.
The only application of top speed I can think of is on a long straight at a racetrack, but even that has tradeoffs, because you could reduce acceleration for more top speed if you wanted.

[JohnBoy]

a mate of mine has a R version and his can go off the clock, (180+).
had mine to 260 KMH on the clock but, shes getting old now so it would be a less if i had a gun. however that was nearly flat out, but i have a noisy helmet and its simply too loud at those speeds, going to invest in some ear plugs and have another go in the summer!!!

[kerryg]

Top speed is not a relevant measure of the bike's performance. It means absolutely nothing, due to the many factors affecting it- gearing, power, tyres, frame, suspension -these all have a major impact. Top speed says nothing relevnt about the bike's performance. It is too dependant on other factors. Measure the quality of the power (acceleration?) suspension, tyres, gearing (acceleration again?) and frame, and you have a meaningful measure. Nobody really uses top speed in it's purest application. Acceleration, cornering ability, comfort, all these things matter in the use of the bike. Even while racing. Even drag racing is about acceleration more than top speed.
The only application of top speed I can think of is on a long straight at a racetrack, but even that has tradeoffs, because you could reduce acceleration for more top speed if you wanted.

Well there ya go....a different and completely reasonable opinion expressed from a particular standpoint (but not, dare I say it) the only reasonable standpoint. QED

[Sensei]

300k twice on the speedo on my old GSX1100R / 235k Ducati 907IE/
260k Yamaha FZ1000 / 230k Triumph T509 / 150k XT500
Sensei

[FROSTY:Me]

Milky just wanted me to tell you guys his CB125T does 110kmh hehehe, 120kmh with a tail wind lol

But then there is me CT110......... 92kmh LOL and it takes me about 15 seconds to get to 60kmh LMAO ....... What a beast, if you want a scary ride, get on one of them in the wind at 80+kmh with 30kgs of mail .....

The military service xl100 I heard of achieved a top speed of 298.5 km/h -true speed
That was just before it hit the ground having fallen out the crate beeing parachuted into some remote location--aparently it still ran afterwards but the forks were-"a touch bent"

[NC]

Twohundredandthirtyfive kilometersanhour

[Magua]

I hear the FZR250 can get to 180kph, but I don't think mine could get there. '88 2kr Exup. The newer ones (3ln) rev much higher but aparently that doesn't make much difference to the performance because usuable power ends at 14000 RPM, so it sounds like it's all for show.

[Velox]

Mine "reckons" we got up to 185, but that was 5k off the speedo and I'm sure it would be lying a bit at that extreme (185 is very 'extreme' for my bike!) How much do speedos lie at the top speeds? I guess it differs a bit for diff bikes though too.

[Drunken Monkey]

The magazines say 265 on paper (164mph), had it showing 272 indicated with revs to burn, but mine is 'tweaked' a bit...