Nothing, it's 7:30pm - Dover's drunk. Don't feed the pig.Originally Posted by Zapf
Nothing, it's 7:30pm - Dover's drunk. Don't feed the pig.Originally Posted by Zapf
Think about it ....20hp vs 116hp after 9 months of ridingOriginally Posted by hsvboy06
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and if you listen to JSG you're stepping up to 136hp. You might as well go check yourself into A+E now.
Go for the SV650, great next step bike ... modern running gear. Get some more saddle time on this then you can decide if you want extreme sportsbike , Sports tourer or something else........
Yeah - hopefully it won't blow around like a feather in the breeze...Originally Posted by Zapf
136?? - correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the 1000 put out around 11XhpOriginally Posted by NinjaBoy
Ninja boy makes a fair comment. You may wish to consider something smaller - your money at the end of the day.
Good luck![]()
It's quite surprising the number of people who tell me "you'll get tired of the 650 really quick - get the thou; it's a really tame thou anyway". But I'm with NinjaBoy - I've been "driving" a mini and the thou is a Formula 1 car. It's just too scary, and sanity tells me something in between is the sensible next step. From what I've read/heard (I've never ridden anything other than my FXR), a V twin is the "safest" because it's so smooth, and the SV looks pretty awesome IMO.
Ok... I actually OWNEED an SV650 before and have ridden the SV thou and a few bikes in between.Originally Posted by hsvboy06
V Twins are not Smooth. V Twins are safe because the moment you let go of the gas it'll slow right down... hence if you are a good Twin rider you won't even use the brakes...
now... get your ass to http://www.m4exhaust.com/products/flash/M4_Exhaust.html and check out the dyno graph between the SV1000 and say a GSXR600. They make the same amount of power.... and Power determins the max speed you can go. Plus the SV will make a heck of a racket getting you to that speed.... it'll be hard for you not to notice. With the GSXR600's / 750's speed can sneak up on you....
just take it easy and get use to the weight (e.g don't drop the bike) and you'll be fine. and you can thank me for choosing the bike with the better factory suspension later.....
sorry if it sounds like I am ranting / or having a go at anyone... just speaking my mind.![]()
newbie since August 2004....
VTR250 (retired) / SV650S (Fw:Keystone19) / GSXR750(given up) / CB400(traded for 919) / CB900 Hornet / CBR954 (traded) / CBR1100XX (sold) / TuonoR (sold) / CB900 Hornet / NC700X / MTS1200 / XR250
What a pile of wank. I've ridden both and find the thou to be considerably more friendly than the 650. It's not the bike that causes the accident, it's the twat riding it. I know from experience.
A big bike is a big bike and will still fuckin bite you if you provoke it. For the money the thou is a much better option and is a nicer riding experience. And don't just chop the throttle on a V twin cos you can lock the fucker up.
As for the suspension needing work that's a pile of shite. It's not a fuckin race bike, it's a compromise because it's made for the real world.
well i know going from a gn250 to a bros650 was a big step and i dont think an sv650 would get boring after an fxr150 anytime soon as you do have to learn that getting a fat from rolling the throttle isnt as good as getting the adrenalin rush of knowing you can use a bike that you arent scared of close to its limit. try the 650 as they should have a good amount of suprise. the sv puts out more power than the bros650 i think so it would be a great next bike. :spudwhat:
I thought the same about a year and a half ago, couldn't be further from the truth.Originally Posted by hsvboy06
Zapf is right about the engine braking, you don't really need to brake that much.
The suspension is a bit crap but you can live with it. The only time the it annoys me is on the road from Thames to Coromandel town, but thats a pretty rough piece of road.
Not saying don't get the thousand though, (particularly for that price) just that the 650 is also a really good ride.
"They say that if I do bungy jumping too much, I might get brian damage."
"I don't even know who Brian is"
hsvboy06, if you can get a much better bike for much the same price it's not really worth buying the worse one. If you ride it at similar speeds that you ride your fixxer, then gradually work your way up to thrashing it, you will be sweet. I got a 250cc after having never ridden a motorbike before, and mine is really heavy and not too powerful but i still find it pretty scary and I don't push it anywhere near its limits. You will probably do the same if you get the thou.
Or, you could buy a cheaper bike, say a six hundy, and save some money?
Up to you bro. If you like the SV then go for it. It's a farking sexy bike, you've got great taste!
Good luck whatever you decide man, ride safe!
-bigbadwolf
`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
Will we see you Sunday hsvboy? Nice lazy lax ride with the newbies.
"If life gives you a shit sandwich..." someone please complete this expression
I reckon test pilot the lot and then make your own decision. As for the comment of the price of a 600cc IL4, I'm with Jim2 on that one. Reread ya post JSG and still do not agree with it.![]()
Those who insist on perfect safety, don't have the balls to live in the real world.
Hey dude, same thing happened to me 18 months ago.
I walked into the shop looking at the SV650S and then say the thou for an extra 1000 bucks. So I just brought it coz it sounds farkin great in comparison. Two months later, I knew I'd made the right decision. The power of the SV is very controllable and the steering is excellent.
Do not be afraid of the big jump between the 150 to the 1000. Because it is the SV, you will find it will be quite a good jump.
If it was 150 to an inline-4 1000, I'd say think again.
1-2 years on the SV1000S would set you up nicely for any bike in the future.
Can I have a ride when you get it?
Feel free to come riding with myself, skelstar, uncle-b and darkman more often.
Personally I would not consider the 650. The thousand will is the only choice. You'll love the real growl.
I've only been riding since September last year, and with CBTA got my full in January. I paid 10995 for my SV650S as they were clearing stock for the K6. There may still be one for the same price at Holeshot, but if the price difference between the 650 and 1000 was only $500 when I was buying, I would have got the thou.
The SV650S is a great step up from a 250, as they say. Good power, though after 3500km I'm still only using 3/4 throttle cos any more and I'd fall off the back! It'll be some time before I'm using full throttle constantly and wanting more, I think. Hardest to get used to for me was the weight when parking, or "reversing", but if you're more than 175cm and 80kg that won't be an issue. It doesn't get blown around like a smaller bike, and coming from a naked bike, the fairing's great. Handling is great on smooth roads and I'm being fussy about mid corner bumps. It is a very comfortable sports tourer.
If you're a bit older and wiser, (or have wife and kids you love), and the odd thousand dollars matters to you, then get the 1000 now. If you don't have the self control, and have "moments" where you've overcooked it, get the 650 for now, and realise that the extra dollars spent in the long term could save your life. You also get to enjoy the "new bike" experience twice.....Just my 2c
I'm not voting either way, but to be fair JSG did say "near new 600c IL4" - I guess it all depends on your definition of "near".Originally Posted by inlinefour
JSG: I'm interested in what you meant by "all the trick bits" - what would I be missing out on if I bought the SV?
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