left or right

[wkid_one]

Agree to disagree there fella, Cos like Skyryder and I said, on a US Guzzi site (a bunch of oll farts anyway) the results were the same as here in a poll on this subject

Ps: don't argue this point please - have you ever pulled a mid corner wheelie and still stayed on line

I only commented about the R1 Forum which got the other result - rights easier.

However - apparantly - I was reading this site today that said that women are more inclined to like right handers and guys left.

Re the camber - if the road is cambered more in one direction than the other - if looking at your CS will 'show' you lean the tyre further on the side with the camber - purely because of the 'lean' inherent in the road. It is not about 'leaning further' rather the angle between the road and the tyre differs with camber. As Pete said - it is easier to explain in drawing than words.

You 'appear' to lean the bike further to the right - as the angle between the bike and the road is already less than 90deg due to the camber....therefore it actually takes less lean to get to the edge of the tyre. Whereas to the left you have greater than 90deg - so you have to lean it further to use the same part of the tyre as the right.

Hence is why you will always have more wear on the centre right of the tyre than the left - if riding in a straight line for extended periods.

Theoretically you will be able to lean further to the left than the right as the camber allows you to lean the bike further , whereas to the right the negative camber (wanting to push you to the outside) will prevent maximum lean being attained.

[dangerous]

Wkid..... I intiley agree with you there, you can often see this weir on tyres of those that ride in straight lines all there life.

[wkid_one]

Yeah......you can see it when bikes are parked - the right always looks better used - yet everyone says they prefer lefts - LOL.

[Posh Tourer :P]

I only commented about the R1 Forum which got the other result - rights easier.

However - apparantly - I was reading this site today that said that women are more inclined to like right handers and guys left.

Re the camber - if the road is cambered more in one direction than the other - if looking at your CS will 'show' you lean the tyre further on the side with the camber - purely because of the 'lean' inherent in the road. It is not about 'leaning further' rather the angle between the road and the tyre differs with camber. As Pete said - it is easier to explain in drawing than words.

You 'appear' to lean the bike further to the right - as the angle between the bike and the road is already less than 90deg due to the camber....therefore it actually takes less lean to get to the edge of the tyre. Whereas to the left you have greater than 90deg - so you have to lean it further to use the same part of the tyre as the right.

Theoretically you will be able to lean further to the left than the right as the camber allows you to lean the bike further , whereas to the right the negative camber (wanting to push you to the outside) will prevent maximum lean being attained.

Exactly what i was trying to say..... you put it much better though

[FROSTY:Me]

A few years ago I'd have said left handers for sure. nowadays i favour the right .Not because of turning into a woman but because of the damage I did to my right shoulder makes me a lil bit shy in the left handers

[Big Dog]

The other reason I favour the right that noone has yet mentioned is that I have better visability turning right.

[matthewt]

The other reason I favour the right that noone has yet mentioned is that I have better visability turning right.

I mentioned this as being my problem with right handers in response #6. For me I preferred lefties and then figured out one day that I wasn't looking far enough ahead when turning right.

[Big Dog]

I mentioned this as being my problem with right handers in response #6. For me I preferred lefties and then figured out one day that I wasn't looking far enough ahead when turning right.

It is easier to see left but there is more to be seen looking right is how it was put to me. Especially if you move over to the left before starting the turn.

[sAsLEX]

Prefer lefts, tyres show a remarkable differnce though(maybe camber but I doubt it). One thing I found was that I always turn in to early on rights especially and if I hold off the corner seems far smoother and easier, maybe due to more vision?

[Big Dog]

Prefer lefts, tyres show a remarkable differnce though(maybe camber but I doubt it). One thing I found was that I always turn in to early on rights especially and if I hold off the corner seems far smoother and easier, maybe due to more vision?

It is more likely due to your having a longer line.
ie if you apex to soon you have to turn sharper to make the corner.

There is a better explanation in Graham Allardices book The Bikers Bible, but I neither have a scanner nor the ability to reproduce the diagrams on a computer without one.

The guts of it is that the closer you get your curve to a straightline the less likely you are to f*(& it up.

Also many people apex to early meaning their lines lack fluidity, and often as a result they have to double apex corners to make it around. this is why I like following Firefight and Baby B they both have very fluid lines with good late apex's. Following less skilled riders tends to have me apexing early.

[Two Smoker]

Well since my last post (donkey's ago..) i prefer my rights due to the better visability.... My knee sliders shows this, but my tyres show that i like both rights and lefts equally ........ (taking into account of camber etc)

[matthewt]

It is easier to see left but there is more to be seen looking right is how it was put to me. Especially if you move over to the left before starting the turn.

But wouldn't you be able to see just as much going into a left hander if you move over to the right ??

Or have I missed the point

[Big Dog]

But wouldn't you be able to see just as much going into a left hander if you move over to the right ??

Or have I missed the point

Not if you are on a two lane road, unless you were planning on visiting the opposing traffic.

On a race trachk it would make no diff but on two way roads it does.

[madandy]

I'm more comfortable moving my ass around coming into a left corner and seem to hang off the bike better.I scrape my right toe alot, but.I
also like late apexing...
It keeps you further away from cages who are exiting corners, where they are most likely to cross the centre line.Early apexing is dangerous on the road.

[wkid_one]

I just seem to have a lot of trouble keeping the bike upright full stop?

In saying that - I went bike shopping yesterday after 6 months of not visiting a bike shop....mmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

But I think I am going to buy this instead....