Yay, you think

[Sniper]

Until you realise its another tyre thread.

Im interested to know others experiences with Michelin Pilot Power tyres. I have them on my bike and can't say I like them too much. They take ages to warm up and the other day I damn near bettered the guy in inlinefour's signature when coming around a corner whilst cranked right over. They just don't seem to offer enough grip when Im going through the hills.

I know my pressures are right, my rear suspension needs a tiny bit of tweaking but surely thats not a contributer esp when my front started to slide the other day :spudwow: (Fuck that gave me a fright) but are there any others who have this problem with Pilot Powers?

Should I just soften up and stop trying to prove somthing to myself or should I splurge and go and get a set of GPR70's?

[texmo]

get some GPR100's

[onearmedbandit]

Got Pilot Powers on the thou and not had any moments yet, and have heard good stories from others regarding them. Fuck you must be riding hard sniper, front end slides, steeping the back out under power. You need to get out to the track bro.

[Sniper]

The front end slide was when I was going after you on the ride OAB. The back end was maybe hitting something slippery as Im damn sure my bike isn't that great to make the rear step out, but I was riding damn hard. You know the ride that you have after a particularly nasty day at work/home and you just need to get out and vent your frustration, thats when I ended up doing another (not so bad) front slide and making the read step out quite badly
Maybe I just need to step back and re-asses my riding style/abilities and get a new bike to suit? Or could someone with a few years experiance follow behind (on a bigger cc bike of course) to tell me what Im doing wrong.

Never heard of the GPR100's Texmo. You got anymore info on them?

[Toast]

Strange that you say they take ages to warm up Sniper...quick warm up is almost universally said to be one of the strong qualities of the Pilot Powers, as apparently they're part synthetic compound or something...whatever the tech shit, I've always found them to warm up excellently, even at 37/42psi.

I loved them to bits, can't think of a better road tyre. They are a bit more 'slidey' than your average tyre I reckon...but they are extremely predictable when doing so.

Sorry to hear that you haven't agreed with the Powers like almost everyone I've spoken to (have heard the odd discenting voice). Maybe they don't suit small bikes (??), not sure...maybe all your negative chi is fucking with the grip levels, again, dunno...but give something else a go. Ya gotta have faith in your tyres else your riding will degrade.

I guess it's kinda like how I hate Pirelli Sport Demons with a passion...but most love 'em...we're all different...

[ZeroIndex]

SPEND SPEND SPEND... lol, ok, nevermind me. But I would hate the front to slide out. That would just be...... crap!

Anyway, good luck with sorting out new tyres or different riding

[cowpoos]

your the first person I've heard complain about PP's

its probally just your riding....can't be the tyres

[Sniper]

Lol, thanks Cowpoo's, maybe its just me. I really don't mind the read sliding a bit, but its the front that has started to make me rethink my tyres.

[loosebruce]

your the first person I've heard complain about PP's

Same here! I run them without second thinking any other tyre, okay on the track they still cook emselves but on the road nothing i've used comes close, Avon Vipers maybe but the wet preformance of the power's is the best i've ever come across.

[Sniper]

Could it be suspension then causing the slides?

[onearmedbandit]

Combined with the goat track surface on those roads yeah I reckon it'll be tied up in there somewhere. Also you might not be getting enough heat into them.

[loosebruce]

Also you might not be getting enough heat into them.

Coz you're riding too slowly

[Zapf]

u getting any wear marks or skuff / slide marks on the tires?

could be tire is made for big bike in mind and the stress on them from a 250 is not enought to heat them up enough.

Same thing as cage tires... e.g you don't put BF Goodrich on small japp cars... or Yoko on big pickups...

[Sniper]

Coz you're riding too slowly

Smartarse

I can only go as fast as the 250 will let me

u getting any wear marks or skuff / slide marks on the tires?

I am getting a couple scuff marks, but they seem to scrub out ok.

[quickbuck]

May be a few factors your self and others have alluded to going on here.

I was thinking your 250 it too light for the tyres, but that is BS as many big bikes are near that weight. It maybe that the 250 doesn't "work" the tyres the same as the big bikes they were really designed for.
It could be a suspension issue, ie compression and rebound rates are all over the place. I don't know the condition of your forks and oil, but could be worth a look.
Do you hang off in the corners? Not being a smart ass here, it is something Aaron Slight mentioned to us earlier in the week.

"When you come up to a corner, you want all the weight possable on the front tyre. This squashes it from a vee shape to a big fat oval shape (if you don't the front will wash). This is assisted by hanging off the bike, and slightly foward. By gently pushing on the inside bar you make the bike lean over (by way of countersteering). As you apex the corner, gently roll on the throttle and stand the bike up again on the exit (by pulling gently on the inside bar). As you do this you can climb back onto the seat. This is all done very gently, and without sudden movements" (abridged)

From my experience, set your self up for a corner before hitting the picks! Unless you ARE Mr Universe! I couldn't move off the seat after braking from 200k (Yes, I was on the track).

Then again, the tyres might not suit you. Don't believe all the hype people give them. You could try something else. I used to run Metzler Me22 rear, and Me33 front on my CBR400. They were the biz IMHO.